Van with cherry picker opinions

[Kevin Flowers]

Warren
look closely in to it if the Cherry picker is registered as plant and uses the privileges of that (No MOT required etc) then i believe you cannot legally carry goods in it or use it as a standard van. However if it stays registered as a van then it can be used as normal and normal MOT etc applies. Ensure it has a current loler test and may be try speaking to the company that carried out the rest and they may give you a good insight as to the condition of the lift. Main problems can be hydraulics which are not the end of the world but things like slew ring gears etc can cost a fortune.

Kev

[Warren Beard]

Hi Kev

Thanks for info, interesting about mot etc as I didn’t know that. I haven’t started looking yet as wanted some info first so this is a great help thanks.

Are they handy to have though or is a trailer option better than the van mounted option?

Warren

[Harry Cleary]

Mr. Lambie has or had one of these Warren I think.

[Martin Cole]

Just get one of these that Simon from the boards used to do his signs

straight out of the bonnet of your car…no need for a large van

😀

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[Warren Beard]

Yeah I do like that idea as well as well as it being portable in case you can’t get the van close enough. Need to research both I think?

[Phill Fenton]

Plus you can replace the cage with a large boxing glove and use it to punch people 😕

[Warren Beard]

thanks Phil 😉

So I think that’s changed my mind, can anybody recommend a decent Scissor lift to look at 😉

cheers

Warren

[Graham Shand]

Have a look at the monkey tower, there was on on flea bay for 1500 cracking bit of kit, towable unit

[George Elsmore]

these are good and they will fit in the back of your van

http://www.sitebox.ltd.uk/ugo-razadeck- … wgodaS4A9w

[Derek Heron]

this is what you want
only trouble is its rated ‘5.5 ton
so you have to be old or do another test to drive it
since i bought it i have cut the amount i have to pay subies to hold ladders etc now i can drive in up and away in less time
insured as plant for any driver over 25
you need to be ipaf registered
i also have hire me on the back and have another body doing ipaf course
to do the odd jobs guttering etc to help pay for it
i also do jobs for other signmakers up here in the north east
actually looking for a trailer mounted leo teupen 18metre for internal and awkward jobs as they are tracked and can go through double doors
derek

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[Warren Beard]

quote George Elsmore:

these are good and they will fit in the back of your van

http://www.sitebox.ltd.uk/ugo-razadeck- … wgodaS4A9w

That looks neat but too small, looking for at least 5m working height as we already have trestles but looking to sell those for a good tower or scissor lift.

[Warren Beard]

quote Derek Heron:

this is what you want
only trouble is its rated ‘5.5 ton
so you have to be old or do another test to drive it
since i bought it i have cut the amount i have to pay subies to hold ladders etc now i can drive in up and away in less time
insured as plant for any driver over 25
you need to be ipaf registered
i also have hire me on the back and have another body doing ipaf course
to do the odd jobs guttering etc to help pay for it
i also do jobs for other signmakers up here in the north east
actually looking for a trailer mounted leo teupen 18metre for internal and awkward jobs as they are tracked and can go through double doors
derek

Hi Derek

This is what I had in mind but after thinking about (which helps) I realised most of our work we would use it is indoors and then what if you can’t get the van close enough so I think more limiting then something portable.

Now just to decide if I go scissor lift or tower or cherry picker, I know all will be limited in some way or the other and quicker/slower than each other but think the van idea is the least ideal for my situation thinking about it.

We just hired a 5 meter tower and my guys said it was great, it was also on a sloped entrance so a scissor lift wouldn’t have been any good, it just takes time to erect and remove but a few grand less than a scissor lift 😉

[David Rogers]

Last place I worked we bought an old electric 5m scissor lift and carted it about on an Ifor Williams trailer. Ideal indoors or level carpark / path…useless on uneven ground.

Handy bit of kit.

[Robert Lambie]

quote Harry Cleary:

Mr. Lambie has or had one of these Warren I think.

Harrys right, had one of the older renault ones warren. think it was about 45ft at max reach. ugly old things but apparently the safest ones built.

anyway… lots of things come into play…

they are no real use for high stre simply hit the facscia and cet work.
1, a decent boom length is often too long for a high street.
you can only swing left and right, if the pavement is not huge, you cant swing past. meaning you have to keep moving the van forward and its just not practical.

2, the bucket doesnt pivot. meaning you have to work from the narrow side.
this means one man to hold fascia boards etc, one man to operate boom,
then both try working from narrow side of bucket.

3, if boom is decent size, the fly boom needs kept in, like bent elbow, this means pedestrians get their heads clipped as you swing back and forward.

vehicle needs mot every year, cherrypicker every 6 months.

theres other but thats from top of head…

do not get me wrong, we had ours about 10 years or more and toured the uk doing piles of large sign work. but also very limited and the new regulations meant things were not so practical.

[John McCormick]

quote Graham Shand:

Have a look at the monkey tower, there was on on flea bay for 1500 cracking bit of kit, towable unit

Graham have you got one of these then? had a look on their website looks useful 😀

[Hugh Fraser]

Hi Grahamn and John
am I missing a link for the towable monkey tower?

[John O'Sullivan]

quote Hugh Fraser:

Hi Grahamn and John
am I missing a link for the towable monkey tower?

Hugh,there isn’t a link just google (monkey tower access platform)that will get it. looks a really handy peice of kit. 🙂

[Graham Shand]

quote John McCormick:

quote Graham Shand:

Have a look at the monkey tower, there was on on flea bay for 1500 cracking bit of kit, towable unit

Graham have you got one of these then? had a look on their website looks useful 😀

I have got a 5m scaffold tower and a 3m razor deck

[John McCormick]

quote Hugh Fraser:

Hi Grahamn and John
am I missing a link for the towable monkey tower?

http://www.monkeytower.co.uk/

[Colin Bland]

We have got 5m 8ft x 2 ft tower which gets you 6.5m practical working height with outriggers and have used for years inside and outside in awkward situations etc we can also split it down and with an extra set of wheels build two towers side by side for lower level work very useful. if we need cherry picker or scissor lift we hire in for the job that way we get the machine we really need and as we cover quite an area geographically we can usually get it delivered to site leaving us with a whole van for signs.
Agree with Rob they ar fairly useless on the high street. Good for pub work getting over projecting roofs conservatories etc and for Retail park.
Scissor lifts also good but some machines very heavy again no good on pavements as risk damage to pavements unless you board them to spread load a little.
I think you are right to come away from trestle and boards stopped using them about 20 years ago didnt think they were still within h&s requirements maybe they are with guard rail attached – can someone clarify this?

Other thing to think about with cherry picker on the van is that it takes up about 50 % of the workable space inside the van.

Colin

[Guy Willett]

As a powered access rental/sales/training enterprise of both truck mounts and van mounted platforms (so interest declared) we may be able to offer some advice as to what’s available on the market.

We’ve had a few signage customers who’ve recently purchased their own kit, so we have some knowledge of what issues signage contractors have in this area.
Feel free to contact

[Ewan Chrystal]

I used this 25 metre bad boy at Inveraray Castle last year. Its on tracks and can fit through a 1 metre wide opening

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[Kevin Flowers]

quote Guy Willett:

As a powered access rental/sales/training enterprise of both truck mounts and van mounted platforms (so interest declared) we may be able to offer some advice as to what’s available on the market.

We’ve had a few signage customers who’ve recently purchased their own kit, so we have some knowledge of what issues signage contractors have in this area.
Feel free to contact

Can vouch for Guys company have used them a few times in the past, excellent equipment and knowledgeable guys

Kev

[Derek Heron]

todays install 14 x 3 metres it got dark the picture posted the banner is just pinned ready for stretching will post one tomorrow of finished and trimmed
ideal job for the cherry picker

derek

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[Warren Beard]

but what if you couldn’t get the van close enough 😉 :lol1:

I’m still looking at many options, so many choices actually but one thing is the van mounted cherry picker is not for us yet as we do a lot of internal stuff and smaller exterior jobs so think there are a few better options at the moment but they are handy those and possibly in the near future 😉

cheers

Warren

[Derek Heron]

hi warren

(but what if you couldn’t get the van close enough)
ropes off the roof

😀

the van does have its limitations even this one was a bit of shuffling about
great for industrial parks. still looking at another one a spider type for indoor and with the extra reach.

and picking up work all the time for maintenance etc

derek
finished pics bit of a tricky one with the curev of the building but worked out ok size is approx 14 x 3 metres

derek

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[Derek Heron]

finished pictures attached

[Warren Beard]

I’m looking for something in the mean time so thinking of just getting a nice tower of some sort.

Seen some great ones and seem to be either small (1 person) or larger (more than 1 person) My guys put up a 1.8m wide tower the other day and said they would battle doing it on their own as they often fit on their own so difficult to get a big one they can’t put up on their own or just takes too long and is dangerous, on the flip side a small one limits people working on it and the width you can work at without having to keep moving it.

Is there any you can recommend that is easy enough for one man to erect but big enough for 2 guys or a decent working width or is this just the limitations to these ?

cheers

warren