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  • Uploading images to site suggestion

    Posted by Warren Beard on January 8, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    I presume if it was easy to do it would be in place but why can’t the upload facility automatically reduce large images to the sites requirements when uploading?

    Just a thought 🙄

    David Rowland replied 12 years, 3 months ago 11 Members · 25 Replies
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  • Chris Wool

    Member
    January 8, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    +1 several times wanted to load pic but could not be bothered to re size it

  • David Rowland

    Member
    January 9, 2012 at 12:11 am

    i prefer offsite links but rob doesn’t seem to like them.. its much easier.

  • Ian Johnston

    Member
    January 9, 2012 at 8:25 am
    quote Dave Rowland:

    i prefer offsite links but rob doesn’t seem to like them.. its much easier.

    Have to admit i think your wrong there Dave,
    I first thought like yourself, but having seen some old threads that have risen lately with Photobucket and the likes, attachment’s missing. The thread becomes pointless.
    With UKSB own upload the photo is there for the life of the thread.

    A Size editor would be handy, but it’s only a two click process On windows anyway.

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    January 9, 2012 at 11:39 am
    quote Warren Beard:

    I presume if it was easy to do it would be in place but why can’t the upload facility automatically reduce large images to the sites requirements when uploading?

    Just a thought 🙄

    i could be wrong, but Ive not heard of a forum that has that sort of facility warren.

    i would imagine it would put allot of added pressure on the sites processor. uksignboards runs on its own dedicated server, so does isigntube for this very reason.

    its years since Ive paid any attention to the sites file storage size, but i remember one time i had a look, files uploaded was something like 500 gigabytes and as i said that was a few years ago… thats "allot" of relatively small files being loaded and stored for ever!

    I could double the upload allowance per file, thats easy enough, but it would be of no real benefit to the site or anyone veiwing it as it just takes longer for it to load.
    the thumbnail viewer auto re-sizes the visual of the picture being loaded. so even if the picture 10 meg, its going to look exactly the same as a half a meg picture in the viewer.

    Dave, I’m with Ian on this, theres no way off site linking is faster and more conveniant. even if you have the file uploaded elsewhere, you still have to go and fetch the file url, copy and past in the link and apply tags for it to appear.
    however, lets say the off site picture is something like 1000 pixals wide.
    its going to throw the forum page loading way off.
    you would need to scroll left and right to veiw it.
    further more, every time a reply was made, we would need to wait on the file loading, and when it does, we scroll left and right to view it.

    Off site linking isnt allowed for various reasons, as listed above. but the main one is exactly what Ian has said. Off site linking creates dudd threads.
    the moderators and i work hard to maintain a level of quality on UKSB. everything from descriptive topic titles, posts in the correct forum, to full proper names used and profile pictures in place. this takes some doing i can tell you…
    however…
    lets say you buy a printer and use the sites search engine to locate topics. up pops an in-depth thread from some years ago, discussing your machine. the guy creating the thread has posted a series of "off site" pictures. then the replies all discuss the pictures. problem is, the off-site pictures no longer exist for whatever reason. so all you get to see is a bunch of broken links, red crosses or as ian has said, photobucket error notices.

    the best and simplist solution to the whole scenario to eliminate all of the above is for the pictures to be loaded on UKSB. that means the pictures will NEVER be lost. The pictures will load at the proper veiwing size. if you need it bigger you click it and it will blow up in size. no need for a storage account for off site linking and so on… it just ticks all the boxes.

    if folk want the upload size to be increased a bit more, then i’ll do that, not a problem, but not to allow huge files to be loaded. theres just no real benefit to be had. if i am missing the point here please advise and ill consider. but thats my take on it and why we ask for no off-site linking.

  • Ian Johnston

    Member
    January 9, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    This is a recent example of what i was talking about

    https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.p … h&start=20

    This is an active thread demo by Phil that has run over the last 3 years, but as can be seen some of the pictures have been moved, showing build stages that would be useful to some people.

    BTW Rob isn’t paying me 🙄 😳

    😀

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    January 9, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    I belong to at least four forums.
    One one, you must be a paying member to add pix and they can only be a very small size. They also delete all pix after 6 months so that old posts read weird or are almost meaningless.

    On another, you can upload pix to them, and their software resizes the pix automatically somehow (don’t ask me) I always resize my pix anyway for my own use. You can do this in any section and they encourage you to do so, and delete offsite pix. It does require a lot of babysitting from the moderators.

    Once, someone had hotlinked and their pic got changed to a very explicit hardcore porn image.

    I can see the reason for wanting pix to be loaded directly to the forum. I also think that in this forum, we should be alble to upload pix to each section, not just a few.
    😉
    Love….Jill

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    January 9, 2012 at 2:28 pm
    quote Ian Johnston:

    This is a recent example of what i was talking about

    https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.p … h&start=20

    This is an active thread demo by Phil that has run over the last 3 years, but as can be seen some of the pictures have been moved, showing build stages that would be useful to some people.

    Unfortunately the photobucket account used went down – hence the lack of pictures and the reason why Rob insists on the pictures being held on UKSB.

    But in my defence – we are unable to upload pictures to any replies posted on the tutorial forum hence the reason for linking off site m’lud 😳

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    January 9, 2012 at 3:32 pm
    quote Jill Marie Welsh:

    I also think that in this forum, we should be alble to upload pix to each section, not just a few.

    Jill what forum cant you upload pictures? you should be able to do it in them all?

    Phill, your correct on not being able to attach pictures in the tutorials forum. my apologies, it has that setting because its only me that uploads the tutorials in the intial post. but i’ll have to alter taht setting anyway as i thought every forum now had the upload fascility.

    Jill when you say you can upload and it resizes pictures to fit the page like UKSB does now? by that i mean resizes the "visual" or do you mean, lets say i upload a file at 10 megabytes, it re sizes it to half a megabyte?

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    January 9, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    Oops I guess the only one you can’t attach pix in here now is the "Say Hello" forum.
    😳
    On my other forum, their uploading device (they do give you rules as to photo size not more than 800 pixels wide) will automatically resize a huge pic to 800 pixels wide. Not sure if it was a ginormous file size tho.

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    January 9, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    I suggested this as I did it the other day on a site but for the life of me can’t remember where it was 😳 Thought it was a good idea as it made it simpler to do. I got all the apps and automators to do it easily but not having to do that would be even easier and the easier something is to do the more likely people will do it 😉

    cheers

    Warren

  • Martin Oxenham

    Member
    January 9, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    It takes a minute in "File Minimiser" (Free) or microsoft do a free one for windows where you just right click on the image and it comes up "resize picture" . Free also.

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    January 9, 2012 at 8:01 pm
    quote Jill Marie Welsh:

    their uploading device (they do give you rules as to photo size not more than 800 pixels wide) will automatically resize a huge pic to 800 pixels wide. Not sure if it was a ginormous file size tho.

    i "think" they will be talking about visual resizing rather than actually down sizing the file Jill, but i could be wrong. for instance… i have attached a picture to this post.

    you will see it sized like any other picture loaded on UKSB.
    Thats because if the picture exceeds a certain size. UKSB automatically creates the compressed picture of the original as shown below.
    but…
    if you click on the picture below, it presents you with the original, which is much larger.


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  • David Rowland

    Member
    January 9, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    I dont want want to argue…

    I can image link in seconds as I am familar with BB code as I use it elsewhere and my fingers fly over the keyboard, so it’s not a bother.

    it only takes seconds to setup a imageshack and with twitterpic it takes even less time, especially as a lot are now linked with your mobile phone these days.

    With regards Ian’s link about photobucket, well yes they can expire is Phill doesn’t pay use his account but they all dont, my flickr still going strong etc.

    In the purpose of the sections like "Demos and Tips" that is Moderated then it would be wise for the content to uploaded to the server in the correct manner, for a case where a response to a question or tongue and cheek reply then linking is better way to go about it, if the link dies in 2 weeks then who cares? To be honest, I am not sure members want to be indexed on google, I dont want my responses all over the internet. I am replying to the question or the tongue and cheek, nothing more and if I use a image then thats surely is up to me!

    Now back to the matter of attach image… yes PHPBB can be extended for image uploaders that are more advanced then the one your using, with regards CPU resources, I doubt this server would be shut down for resizing of images, that is very unlikely. The issue comes with browser timeouts and hi-res digital camera, those 8mb wopping 10MB images you try and upload and convert, thats when the smart software needs to come into it’s own, like some of the photo uploading sites that help you resize it for you. (Some of this will be down to server timeout settings also). Oh and storage space, I suspect you still got plenty of room on the server, my own web setup is linked harddrives, so I have no upper limit, can never run out of space.

    Anyway.. i said my bit, we must MOVE ON!! everyone has an opinion and that is mine.

    Uploaded with ImageShack.us which took me about 10 seconds with a URL link

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    January 10, 2012 at 12:17 am

    :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

    yeh but your opinion isnt answering whats been said mate. 😉

    UKSB has 3 dedicated servers dave, at no point have i said uksb or its associated sites are low on power, limited in what it can do or restricted by the hosts in "any way".

    quote Dave Rowland:

    if the link dies in 2 weeks then who cares?

    I care Dave…

    and if you did not, then you wouldnt have asked me if we could have an HP forum on the site mate.
    why? because it houses all relevant threads under one roof.
    it makes finding back posts by users of their machines easier found and not just today, tomorrow or next week… but for ever more.

    imagine your machine had an error message tonight whilst running a big job. you come on here and find a thread explaining everything you need to fix your machine…. but instead you get a bunch of broken image links! 🙄

    anyway dave, im not arguing with you mate, just giving my replies to the posts made.

    look on it like this…

    You walk into a library looking for the book, "fly fishing by J.R. Hartly"
    😀
    You walk upto the Librarian who is sat half asleep playing Solitair on her computer and really doesnt give a crap about the mess the place is in.
    you ask her for help, but she grunts and points into a sea of unkept books. books on tables, loose pages all over the floor. theres not even signs up telling you which section you should be looking.

    What chance do you have of finding the book amongst tens of thousands?

    or

    would you rather walk in and be greeted with a smile and "can i help?"
    you ask the question…. she punches in a few keys on her computer to check first, then points to the relevant corner under the sign "Fishing".

    now you may NEVER want to read Mr Hartly fly fishing book, i get that. But Hugh potter might! which is why i recon most sign makers come here for help before venturing onto all those other un-kept libraries. 😉

    Oh and Dave, when i clicked your image i got hit with 4 flashing adverts telling me i had won an iPad!!!

    i was asked for my mobile number… when i declined…

    it then led me to this page which was reluctant to let me leave the page by questioning what i was doing!

    need i say more? 😉

    .


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  • David Rowland

    Member
    January 10, 2012 at 10:31 am

    imageshack was an example… as it was first that came to my mind, think they gone downhill like photobucket did with advertising.. but i dont care.. my pic appeared which served it’s purpose.

    leave it be please!!

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    January 10, 2012 at 11:47 am
    quote Dave Rowland:

    imageshack was an example… as it was first that came to my mind, think they gone downhill like photobucket did with advertising.. but i dont care.. my pic appeared which served it’s purpose.

    leave it be please!!

    the image did serve its purpose and only confirmed my argument mate, sorry. 😉 :lol1: :lol1:

    anyway, as way of compromise, ive now increased the file upload size to just over double the original. but still maintain picture images must be attached.
    at the end of the day, we are all supposed to be graphic designers at one level or another, and resizing a picture "if needed" should take us seconds as some have already said.

  • John Singh

    Member
    January 13, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    Where’s Warren?

    He sat back dipping his biscuit into a cuppa whilst this is going on! :ball:

  • Stephen Henderson

    Member
    January 13, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    Oh Dear !!!!! no more fighting Children !!
    When I have an image to put on this forum, I open Corel draw dump the image in squash it down save as a bitmap, and post it, never had any problems. (:)

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    January 13, 2012 at 4:09 pm
    quote John Singh:

    Where’s Warren?

    He sat back dipping his biscuit into a cuppa whilst this is going on! :ball:

    :peek:

    I was too afraid, my simple suggestion got Dave in a tizzy and not sure where all that aggression came from from such a big teddy bear :lol1:

    Just thought it would be easy to not have to worry about changing the size and just click and attach and the site would make it what ever size it wanted.

    simples …

    …. or not so much apparently :lol1:

    anyway stop picking on me, I’m savoring my 5000th post 😉 (I expect cards in the post :lol1: )

    and besides, those of us who go on 3 month holidays mustn’t come back and stir trouble, yes I’m talking to you Mr Singh (oh and by the way thanks for Gary the fitters details, he helped me out bug time :thumbsup: )

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    January 13, 2012 at 8:27 pm
    quote Warren Beard:

    where all that aggression came from from such a big teddy bear

    Dave’s a lovely guy as you said warren, i don’t think he is intentionally being aggressive. i just suspect he’s maybe on his period or something… 😕 :lol1:

    😉

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    January 13, 2012 at 8:30 pm
    quote Robert Lambie:

    quote Warren Beard:

    where all that aggression came from from such a big teddy bear

    Dave’s a lovely guy as you said warren, i don’t think he is intentionally being aggressive. i just suspect he’s maybe on his period or something… 😕 :lol1:

    😉

    :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    January 13, 2012 at 8:33 pm
    quote Robert Lambie:

    i just suspect he’s maybe on his period or something… 😕 :lol1:

    ha-ha :lol1:

  • John Singh

    Member
    January 13, 2012 at 8:36 pm
    quote Robert Lambie:

    quote Warren Beard:

    where all that aggression came from from such a big teddy bear

    Dave’s a lovely guy as you said warren, i don’t think he is intentionally being aggressive. i just suspect he’s maybe on his period or something… 😕 :lol1:

    😉

    Or he’s going through the change
    A few hormone injections should sort it though (<(

  • John Singh

    Member
    January 13, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    Mustn’t forget to congratulate Warren on his 5,000th post :yeeha:

  • David Rowland

    Member
    January 13, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    Just Rob thinks he knows what’s best… :wedgey: :baby:

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