turning back from uniform to versacamm

[Shaun Holdom]

Hi There,

The Uniform Cadet machine is simply a Roland in disguise, the only major differences being the inks and the rip.

When you are changing back I would make sure you flush the machine well, replace the dampers, wipers and upgrade the firmware on the machine. And if you have not already upgrade to the latest roland pump as this will make the printer run far better.

You wont need to change much on the board only the dip switched possibly to run the new Roland Pump.

Thanks

Shaun

[Kevin Waite]

I have just changed my SP300V to the new pump, all that it needs is the latest firmware and 1 setting changed in the service menu ( System Switch setting ) I read somewhere on another forum that to use Versaworks a dip switch setting on the board needed to be changed.

Kev

[Ian Muir]

Seems on the face of it that you are being ‘ripped’ off then G if an engineer is trailing out just to change a dip switch setting.. would be interesting to just stand over the engineer and watch how he/her manages to elongate the callout time so he/her proves to you that his/her time is well spent….

Ian :lol1:

[George Elsmore]

quote Shaun Holdom:

Hi There,

The Uniform Cadet machine is simply a Roland in disguise, the only major differences being the inks and the rip.

When you are changing back I would make sure you flush the machine well, replace the dampers, wipers and upgrade the firmware on the machine. And if you have not already upgrade to the latest roland pump as this will make the printer run far better.

You wont need to change much on the board only the dip switched possibly to run the new Roland Pump.

Thanks

Shaun

Shaun, the machine has already been changed back i was just thinking about updating my software to suit and was looking at getting the latest versaworks, just wanted to know if you can just buy the software without getting an engineer in to install it etc???

[Kevin Flowers]

George
mind was a SC545 Victory machine i swapped to Versaworks with no problems. Speak to Roland tell them you have gone back to their inks & i’m sure they will supply a copy of Versaworks . The machine actually works as a Dongle for Versaworks & providing it is a V machine should be fine.

Kev

[George Elsmore]

Kevin do you think that they will supply this for free????

[Colin-T]

I think they will supply it for free as it comes free with their machines. I would imagine they would welcome the chance to get another machine on their inks and under their banner. On another note, as long as your machine is a "V" it will work OK with Versaworks without paying an engineer.

[George Elsmore]

I have fired an email direct to roland but should i have gone through the dealer that converted back? and is it a case of just loading software?

Thanks for any info Stu much appreciated

G

[Colin-T]

No problem, I think if you ring Roland they will most likely fix you up with a copy, or one of the members might have a spare lying around from an upgrade maybe. All you need to do is load it up, the software should autosense the machine on the other end and talk to it from there

[George Elsmore]

cheers man will let you know how it goes

[George Elsmore]

quote disco stu:

I think they will supply it for free as it comes free with their machines. I would imagine they would welcome the chance to get another machine on their inks and under their banner. On another note, as long as your machine is a “V” it will work OK with Versaworks without paying an engineer.

Latest had a phone call from Roland

Hi your machine has an older board and therefore is not a sp-300v sir, soooo you will need to upgrade the board to run versaworks.

how much is that?

£1000 ish

so why does it say sp-300v on the machine decals?

they must of ran out of sp300 covers

so can i upgrade colorip 2.2?

no

is there any other compatible rips?

yes wasatch

great how much is that?

£1500

so have you ever had the feeling you have been shafted with the blunt end of a ragmans trumpet is how i feel right now

😕 😕

[Russell Huffer]

Hi George,

I looked at using Versaworks but was told because i have a SJ740 not an SJ740EX i would need a dongle to use versaworks cost £1000.00

However I use Wasatch, originally from B&P i had the "Roland" version that cost about £500.00 this was with the machine but still must be cheaper than £1500.00 which is the cost of the full version.

As yours was a Uniform machine it could well be worth talking to B&P and seeing what sort of price they could do for Troop/Wasatch may even be an upgrade fee as you have Colorrip.

Regards

Russell.

[Chris Wool]

wasatch do a deal for a cut down version as you have colourrip its a one roland machine only version last offered at about £180 ?

simon at spire digital gave me the details a while ago.

i still run colour rip and not to bothered about changing it works well.

chris

[George Elsmore]

Chris, i like colorip its never let me down but as media moves on then so the profiles for colorip become obsolete 😕

[Stephen Morriss]

George

I have the Wasatch upgrade, the colour profiles from Colorip work fine with the new version, I’m not sure about new profiles though.
The new Wasatch rip is 16 bit not 8 bit so supposedly the profiles can be better, again I am not using these just the old Uniform profiles.

Shane also uses the Wasatch upgrade but he’s had his machine profiled to suit.

Price of the upgrade is about £190 but then they try to sting you with the import duty.

Steve