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  • Tray sign installation instructions

    Posted by Cheryl Smith on July 18, 2011 at 9:57 am

    Hello
    I am going to attempt to install a tray sign for the first time along with my new trainee pair of hands…
    Does anyone have any instructions or tips for this type of job…ie the type of wood to use behind or anything that would help me gain confidence in doing this…?
    many thanks for any input…
    Cheryl

    David Rowland replied 12 years, 9 months ago 11 Members · 18 Replies
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  • John Harding

    Member
    July 18, 2011 at 10:01 am

    its fairly easy so dont panic I tend to use ally angle rather than wood and try to set the two pieces a couple of mm smaller then the trays internal dimensions so it slips over easy but close enough not to pull the returns in noticeably when you screw tight

  • Derek Heron

    Member
    July 18, 2011 at 10:08 am

    i am with john on the ali angle
    normally put the tray on the bench reverse and make some wooden batons to fit in between the angle brackets
    much easier when fitting

    (think i got this idea from peter normington)

    you can put top and bottom brackets up remove the batons and tray should slip over nicely

    if into brick or concrete we use thunder bolts saves hassle drilling and plugging

    Derek

  • Cheryl Smith

    Member
    July 18, 2011 at 11:24 am
    quote Derek Heron:

    i am with john on the ali angle
    normally put the tray on the bench reverse and make some wooden batons to fit in between the angle brackets
    much easier when fitting

    (think i got this idea from peter normington)

    you can put top and bottom brackets up remove the batons and tray should slip over nicely

    if into brick or concrete we use thunder bolts saves hassle drilling and plugging

    Derek

    cool…Im not sure I understand about the wooden batons? what are thunderbolts?….ill have a surf to see…

  • Jason Xuereb

    Member
    July 18, 2011 at 11:38 am

    The batons are just wooden spacers between the top bracket and the bottom. Saves you measuring on the wall etc.

    Thunderbolts I assume are Dyna bolts. Thats what we call them down here.

  • Patrick Keenan

    Member
    July 18, 2011 at 11:45 am

    Hi Cheryl

    have look on ashby’s web site

    I’m sure there a technical pdf on wall mounted trays

    its under Technical tab

    hope that may help

    Patrick

  • Kev Mayger

    Member
    July 18, 2011 at 11:51 am

    Use Tech screws for fixing into place. Self drilling & look ok to.

    Kev

  • Tim Painter

    Member
    July 18, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    Cheryl hope this rough out helps.

    If you flip the tray on the bench, lay the angle in the correct way and the baton to check the spacing is just right for a snug but not too tight fit.

    The baton is purely to help when you fit for the angle spacing.


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  • Cheryl Smith

    Member
    July 18, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    excellent everyone…thanks for all the tips….feeling a little more confident in doing these now 🙂

  • David Rowland

    Member
    July 18, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    hm.. i would make battens fit tray

    position batten up
    screw thru to other side with drill and spirit level
    4" hammer screws into wall
    put tray over battens, screw in from top and maybe holding screws on top
    cover any screw caps with vinyl

  • Cheryl Smith

    Member
    July 18, 2011 at 3:55 pm
    quote Dave Rowland:

    hm.. i would make battens fit tray

    position batten up
    screw thru to other side with drill and spirit level
    4″ hammer screws into wall
    put tray over battens, screw in from top and maybe holding screws on top
    cover any screw caps with vinyl

    yes Dave, thats how I guessed It could have been done in the first place…but I was not sure that if there was a better way…especially that when i was last supplied with a tray sign, there were ali angle bits with it…..

  • Tim Painter

    Member
    July 18, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    Dave are you having a moment again :lol1:

    I would never fit a tray using wooden batons.

  • David Rowland

    Member
    July 18, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    Good old wood, tried and tested.

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    July 18, 2011 at 4:54 pm
    quote Dave Rowland:

    Good old wood, tried and tested.

    Yeah but no but, wood needs to be prepped, ally is a better material Dave,
    also tried and tested, yes, they used to build airplanes with wood,(spruce Goose) but ally won the day!

    Peter

  • Steve Underhill

    Member
    July 18, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    If the wall is flat use Aluminium, if its heavily pebble dashed etc or has that really lumpy council house style lumps on it or a very uneven surface I use steel angle, as when fixing ali can pull it out of shape. mind you I live in Cornwall where everything is never straightforward.

  • Tim Painter

    Member
    July 19, 2011 at 6:58 am

    Wood can fail over time, it’s a nice moisture trap behind a tray.

  • David Rowland

    Member
    July 19, 2011 at 9:12 am

    im sure the print will fail before the wood

    dont over do a sign imo

  • David Rogers

    Member
    July 19, 2011 at 10:15 am

    I used to make up full alloy angle backing mounts – not a wooden baton in sight.

    Then I started noticing that every other company round here puts up two wooden batons…and slips the tray over them. Looks the same – does the same job…only saves a load of time & effort.

    Dave

    wood…well, it’s going to last 10-20 years if not soaked…print, maybe 5-7 years or do.

  • David Rowland

    Member
    July 19, 2011 at 10:22 am

    yep… indeed… time is money

    also u be back to rebrand them before long…. well maybe in our village 😀

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