Transfer paper comparison

[Steve Underhill]

That looks like you used the wrong side of the xpres paper, that mottled effect on the mug on the left is what happens when you do that, I use the xpres paper and have crystal clear sharp images every time.
obviously maybe this isnt the case but ive done it and thats the result.

[John Thomson]

First thing I checked Steve……..maybe it simply is not good on the cheap mugs?

john

[Neil Speirs]

What time & temp are you going for John? Both mugs look a tad yellow at the top.

[Simon.James]

so you dont think xpress isnt really cheap chinese paper with a pretty x on the box???

nearly everything you own originates from china.

[Chris Wool]

being a newbe to mugs i have to say that this new gear is exceeding expectations at the moment with the quality of the print.
dodgy start though.

do you think the xpress paper needed a little more time.

chris

[Warren Beard]

I know this is not the problem as you used the same specs for both but I was getting that same mottled effect and found it was down to pressure as I had it to high, I took off pressure and it sorted the problem.

looked exactly like that though 😕

[John Thomson]

quote Neil Speirs:

What time & temp are you going for John? Both mugs look a tad yellow at the top.

Yellow walls in the room 😀 think it is a reflection.

john

[Paul Humble]

John,

I use the XPres stuff and ive had a few problems lately which has proved to be simply down to the temperature change. After some advice on here ive been pre warming the mugs for 10 seconds before pressing and its much better. Ive also increased my pressing times to 5 minutes from Xpres’ recommended 4.5 mins.

As for the yellowing at the top, I always try to make sure the paper covers the full mug to avoid the yellowing (which I assume is simply burning), it looks like perhaps your transfer didnt cover the full cup?

All that said, next time you order from China give me a shout because im very impressed with that image!

[Steve Underhill]

I use the xpres paper on the mugs, at 190 degrees for 220 seconds, this allows for the cooling down of the press when you put the mug in first, get a perfect result every time, very sharp and crisp, ofcourse could be a dodgy pack of paper I had some paper once that was useless but was from another supplier, worked fine on the shirts but no good on ceramics or wood products

[Paul Humble]

quote Steve Underhill:

I use the xpres paper on the mugs, at 190 degrees for 220 seconds, this allows for the cooling down of the press when you put the mug in first, get a perfect result every time, very sharp and crisp, ofcourse could be a dodgy pack of paper I had some paper once that was useless but was from another supplier, worked fine on the shirts but no good on ceramics or wood products

Steve, ive never pressed using Xpres paper for less than 4 minutes as thats less than the Xpres tech set the machine at when he installed the gear. What kind of pressures do you use with that time?

[Steve Underhill]

medium pressure, all of xpres recommended times temps and cutting depths for they’re vinyl are WAY out, in my experience, those might be settings and dwell times for their gear but certainly would not work on mine. I bought the cutter from them and the force they say to use doesnt work, the roland engineer agreed with me, and at 4 minutes in a mug press the paper just burns and the image gets blurred, obviously varies from press to press but mine is like that.

[John Thomson]

quote Steve Underhill:

I use the xpres paper on the mugs, at 190 degrees for 220 seconds, this allows for the cooling down of the press when you put the mug in first, get a perfect result every time, very sharp and crisp, ofcourse could be a dodgy pack of paper I had some paper once that was useless but was from another supplier, worked fine on the shirts but no good on ceramics or wood products

The Xpress paper is fine on mouse mats……I think it may simply be the mug coating?
End result is at least I can fulfill the order with the paper that came from the press manufacturer 😀

John

[Paul Humble]

Steve

I dont get blurring but I do get the yellowing like in the pics if the paper doesnt cover the full mug. Have you used the Porcelain mugs that Xpres supply yet? I dont seem to be able to wind my press in enough to get suitable results, and yes, I am using the correct stand lol!

Sorry for the thread hijack John….

[Steve Underhill]

Just a thought, you can get sublimation paper for hard and soft surfaces, cant remember if xpres do both but that’ll be your answer, the soft substrate paper will give a mottled effect as it has a different texture sometimes.
Paul, I only use xpres mugs, sometimes from bms if i need something that xpres don’t sell but usually xpres

[Paul Humble]

Steve, I only use Xpres too but the porcelain mugs im referring to are the slim feminine mugs that Xpres supplied with my package. They look nice but dont seem to print too well as you cant clamp the press down as far as it needs.

Xpres only sell the one kind of subli paper.

[Chris Wool]

john on pauls timings you save about a hour on the 50 mugs 😀

but found out that no matter what we do there is all ways some little difference between makes

chris

[John Thomson]

Sublimation seems to be working out what works best for you…..lots of variables…..

John

[Mark Jahn]

Paul – we print on the slimline mugs (the ones we’ve got are called Windsor’s and Steffi’s – one with a lip and the other without). They print very well when we use two silicon wrap between the mug and the press to build up the gap. Time is increased by 1 minute and temperature goes up to 210 to compensate for the presence of the wraps.

Re: Paper – we’ve got True Pix which I’m told is better for hard substrates. The other is Texprint which I think is more suited for T Shirts but I’ve never tried that. For me the True Pix does very well on T Shirts, mouse mats etc.