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  • This intrigues me, why is it so??

    Posted by Richard O on November 20, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    Just trying to work out why when cutting temp tatts stencils, the cutter starts cutting one stencil then will wander off and start doing another one and so on, then come back and finish off the first one, then wander off and finish off the others that need doing.

    Why does it not finish the first job before it goes on to the next.

    Some of the stencils are quite intricate and on occasion I have noticed that after the cutter comes back to finish a stencil the cuts do not join up exactly.

    Roland GX24 cutter.

    I usually feed a 1m x 610mm piece, which holds 8 A4 size pages, that have from 8-10 stencils in each and have weeding boxes around them and a weeding box around each to seperate the A4 pages.

    Thanks in advance
    Rich

    Richard O replied 12 years, 5 months ago 4 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Karl Williams

    Member
    November 20, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    If you are making repeated copies in your signmaking software the software recognizes shapes in the order they were made. so on copy 1 will make a circle then go on to the next copy and make another circle. This will or may happen on every shape on every copy. If you tell your cutting software to produce 100 copies lets say then this will recognize the image as 1 separate job and will produce this first then move to the second one. Had the same problem and this was the only answer I could come up with at the time.

  • Richard O

    Member
    November 20, 2011 at 11:17 pm
    quote Karl Williams:

    If you are making repeated copies in your signmaking software the software recognizes shapes in the order they were made. so on copy 1 will make a circle then go on to the next copy and make another circle. This will or may happen on every shape on every copy. If you tell your cutting software to produce 100 copies lets say then this will recognize the image as 1 separate job and will produce this first then move to the second one. Had the same problem and this was the only answer I could come up with at the time.

    Hi Carl,

    These aren’t copies, each of the A4 pages contain different designs/figures.

    Plus I design them in Vinyl Master Pro then save them as eps and export them to Roland CutStudio for cutting (I have never worked out how to cut from Vinyl Master Pro).

    Or am I missing something in your post??

    Regards
    Rich

  • Karl Williams

    Member
    November 20, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    Are you sending all the different jobs to cut at the same time? Might be worth a try exporting as an AI file if you can and see if that rectifies the problem. I’ve not used your software mate so I’m advising blind on this one.

  • Kevin Flowers

    Member
    November 20, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    Its to do with path direction & the order the design is drawn in, the first line would normally be at the back, 2nd line in front of that etc. Each file saves this info so when you group your files it will cut all the 1st drawn lines which means it will jump from design to design. Summa plotters have a option to ignore this & and optimize cutting, don’t known about the Roland. You could try selecting the entire design & send to back & see if that helps. You may need to have the design ungrouped.

    Kev

  • Karl Williams

    Member
    November 20, 2011 at 11:42 pm
    quote Kevin Flowers:

    Its to do with path direction & the order the design is drawn in, the first line would normally be at the back, 2nd line in front of that etc. Each file saves this info so when you group your files it will cut all the 1st drawn lines which means it will jump from design to design. Summa plotters have a option to ignore this & and optimize cutting, don’t known about the Roland. You could try selecting the entire design & send to back & see if that helps. You may need to have the design ungrouped.

    Kev

    That’s what I was trying to say but I think you said it better Kevin. 😉

  • Richard O

    Member
    November 20, 2011 at 11:45 pm
    quote Karl Williams:

    Are you sending all the different jobs to cut at the same time? Might be worth a try exporting as an AI file if you can and see if that rectifies the problem. I’ve not used your software mate so I’m advising blind on this one.

    What I do is design 8-10 stencils, these then fit one A4 size page in VMP then each A4 size page is saved as an eps.

    I have 50 separate A4 pages saved as eps.

    Then I open CutStudio import 8 separate eps as these fit on the 1m x 610mm piece in the cutter, line them up and cut.

    I will try saving them as an AI and see what happens, but I guess for me the bottom line is now that I know it shouldn’t wander off as it does I can work on solving the problem.

    Regards
    Rich

  • Richard O

    Member
    November 20, 2011 at 11:59 pm
    quote Kevin Flowers:

    Its to do with path direction & the order the design is drawn in, the first line would normally be at the back, 2nd line in front of that etc. Each file saves this info so when you group your files it will cut all the 1st drawn lines which means it will jump from design to design. Summa plotters have a option to ignore this & and optimize cutting, don’t known about the Roland. You could try selecting the entire design & send to back & see if that helps. You may need to have the design ungrouped.

    Kev

    Thanks for that Kevin, I will experiment with this idea and see if it helps.

    Regards
    Rich

  • Richard O

    Member
    November 21, 2011 at 2:50 am
    quote Kevin Flowers:

    Its to do with path direction & the order the design is drawn in, the first line would normally be at the back, 2nd line in front of that etc. Each file saves this info so when you group your files it will cut all the 1st drawn lines which means it will jump from design to design. Summa plotters have a option to ignore this & and optimize cutting, don’t known about the Roland. You could try selecting the entire design & send to back & see if that helps. You may need to have the design ungrouped.

    Kev

    Thanks for that Kevin, I will experiment with this idea and see if it helps.

    Regards
    Rich

    Not sure how I managed the double post sorry Rob

  • Richard O

    Member
    November 21, 2011 at 6:19 am
    quote Kevin Flowers:

    Its to do with path direction & the order the design is drawn in, the first line would normally be at the back, 2nd line in front of that etc. Each file saves this info so when you group your files it will cut all the 1st drawn lines which means it will jump from design to design. Summa plotters have a option to ignore this & and optimize cutting, don’t known about the Roland. You could try selecting the entire design & send to back & see if that helps. You may need to have the design ungrouped.

    Kev

    Following on from yours and Karls thoughts led me to the following:

    Seems what was happening was when I imported the eps into Cutfile they became ungrouped so I regrouped them and bingo no cutter wandering off doing as it wanted, it finished each A4 sheet before moving to the next one.

    Many thanks to you and Karl

    Regards
    Rich

  • Mike Grant

    Member
    November 21, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    You may also have a "sequence plot" or similar command somewhere. This then cuts the piece nearest to the start point. It can jump about a bit on the height of the vinyl but not on the length. I use this with vinyl over 1.5 meters to stop tracking errors.

  • Richard O

    Member
    November 21, 2011 at 8:59 pm
    quote Mike Grant:

    You may also have a “sequence plot” or similar command somewhere. This then cuts the piece nearest to the start point. It can jump about a bit on the height of the vinyl but not on the length. I use this with vinyl over 1.5 meters to stop tracking errors.

    Closest I can find is an area command, that can be set up to x amount of meters (can’t remember how many off hand, that helps tracking errors.

    It seems all is good now but many thanks for the help.

    Rich

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