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the best sign I’ve ever seen
Posted by Marcella Ross on January 14, 2007 at 9:57 pmIt’s taken me ages to upload this clip, I took it almost 2 years ago at the Geneva Motor Show. There were loads of wonderful signs there but this really grabbed my attention.
So how did they do it?Fab! 😀
http://s107.photobucket.com/albums/m304 … erSign.flv
Hugh Potter replied 17 years, 3 months ago 17 Members · 37 Replies -
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i really like that too Marcella… looks very different. top notch!
i am guessing this is the same thing, but looks very much like it.
they create a thin waterfall/water curtain dropping from probably behind the Jeep sign.
as it falls its almost invisible. but they then hit a laser beam, hidden some place up high out of the road… off the water, creating the effect.
you can hire these lasers and projectors for events.you may remember they used the same type of laser to project the picture of Gayle porter naked on the houses of Parliament a few years ago?
this is same type of thing, they just need the surface to bounce the image off of.this is not the site i had in mind, but is similar:
http://www.watershow.de/en/produkte/waterscreen.php.
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No lasers Robert, purely water droplets. Almost like a water LED 🙂 thats about the best way I can describe it. There was a trough type thing where the water fell from. When you looked up into it the water fell in sequence. Very clever.
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thats one of the most innovative signs i ever saw. Not your run of the mill sign and it definately had some engineering involved lol.
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fantastic.
can’t help but be amused that no one else in the room seems to give it a second glance.
Cheers
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quote Shane Drew:fantastic.
can’t help but be amused that no one else in the room seems to give it a second glance.
Cheers
well everyone else there was busy looking at Ferraris, Astons, Spykers, Lambos etc etc …………. I was the only one looking at their signs :lol1: 😳
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Nice sign. Good to see somebody being innovative.
Marcie, how’s the dog training coming along? 😀
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quote John Childs:Marcie, how’s the dog training coming along? 😀
:lol1: Sit! and I’ll tell you 😉
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its exactly how a digital print head works but instead of ink they are using water and instead of spraying it onto a material they are letting it fall against a backdrop.
There must be a row of computer controlled nozzles in the trough above.
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quote signsurfer:its exactly how a digital print head works but instead of ink they are using water and instead of spraying it onto a material they are letting it fall against a backdrop.
There must be a row of computer controlled nozzles in the trough above.
Very very clever.if that’s how its done, then that IS clever/cool etc
after reading Marcella’s reply about it NOT being a projector or laser against a water curtain. i sat watching the video about 10 times trying to suss how the water could be drop liked that. "way over my head" :lol1: -
quote signsurfer:its exactly how a digital print head works but instead of ink they are using water and instead of spraying it onto a material they are letting it fall against a backdrop.
Can’t see how that is done in the vertical plane, and where is the backdrop/how are the light areas lit if not from the horizontal position?
Love it and very curious.
Dave
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quote Marcella:well everyone else there was busy looking at Ferraris, Astons, Spykers, Lambos etc etc …………. I was the only one looking at their signs :lol1: 😳
we are both sad sign people Marcella. 😳
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quote signsurfer:its exactly how a digital print head works but instead of ink they are using water and instead of spraying it onto a material they are letting it fall against a backdrop.
There must be a row of computer controlled nozzles in the trough above.
Very very clever.I agree with signsurfer on this controlled water droplets, its very cleaver idea
Nick
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dave i guess if they have light source above or below it would act a bit like an edge lit sign. as the water falls its already in the path of the beam of light to illuminates the water drops as they falls.
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put my hand in it? I nearly had my hair washed sticking my head in to look and see how it was working! :lol1: I walked around it, looked down looked up, stuck my hand under it ………… did everything apart from take a screwdriver to it!!!! :lol1: :lol1:
I think people thought I was some sort of saddo ……….. got more excited about that than the Bugatti Veyron they had sitting not too far from it! -
Looked around for the technology behind it:
http://www.hgb-leipzig.de/~julius/spher … itfall.php
Very, very cool….a ‘water curtain’ that’s had a few tweaks.
dave
Translate the German…less the poncy "metaphor for the flow of information’ crap.
"In the case of this installation, water serves as an information medium to the viewer
The parts fixed to the top cover consists of 128 nozzles, which discharge individual water drops by means of single solenoid valves. A computer program synchronizes the single solenoid valves in such a way that the water falls as individual drops, resulting in a definable bit-map image. A basin at the bottom collects the from the image. It is then pumped to the top in a closed-loop system.
Water, pump, 128 single solenoid valves, electronics, 350cm x 500cm x 50cm"
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any chance you can translate that into english 😕
nik
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I’m not impressed. If they could have done that in colour or even 3D then I would have taken notice.
Whatever happened to topless women draped over the cars at motorshows 😮 Much more interesting than hi tech waterfalls 😕
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wow.. love that… where can i get the large print head?
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its not a print head as such though is it?
when signsurfer said print head it sounded the obvious answer but…
(i know ill be corrected) :lol1:
if the print head drops the ink, its "lay-down" onto flat media leaving the image on the surface. the water is falling to be viewed from a side on view (before it hits a surface) if that makes sense? 😕
also… some of the graphics fall in one go the full width so its not like the head is traveling left to right.or am i wrong again? :lol1:
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quote Dave Harrison:certainly !
“Very expensive shower head ! ” 😀
:lol1: :lol1: :lol1:
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quote Robert Lambie:its not a print head as such though is it?
when signsurfer said print head it sounded the obvious answer but…
(i know ill be corrected) :lol1:
if the print head drops the ink, its “lay-down” onto flat media leaving the image on the surface. the water is falling to be viewed from a side on view (before it hits a surface) if that makes sense? 😕
also… some of the graphics fall in one go the full width so its not like the head is traveling left to right.or am i wrong again? :lol1:
Yes, Rob, makes sense. The ‘nozzles’ are static & full width, but still work like an inkjet head – just a couple of thousand times bigger. Unlike a printer though – ‘space’ is the media it is ‘printed’ onto,[veiwed in it’s ‘lay down’ pattern before hitting the water trough at the bottom] and gravity is the ‘feed’.
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yeah, there are nozzles all along the entire width with clever software controlling the droplets from each one at just the right time. The water gathers in the trough at the bottom and is taken back up, running like a fountain if you like.
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quote Phill:Whatever happened to topless women draped over the cars at motorshows 😮 Much more interesting than hi tech waterfalls 😕
they were there too Phill (although not topless but plenty flesh showing nevertheless) 😀 But I wasn’t impressed by them so didn’t film them I’m afraid.
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Marcella,
Have you any idea who made this? It really is very impressive! -
:lol1: :lol1: :lol1: that concept was really bugging you Robert eh!!!!! You had to find it!
Well, his invention is brilliant but good god he talks b*ll*cks! -
:lol1: :lol1: :lol1: yip… was bugging the life out of me… :lol1:
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😀 😀 😀 Don’t ask him to explain over a pint. You’ll be P****d by the time he’s finished! The results are great though.
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Having looked at Robs link, it one of those ideas that we all wished we had thought of, brilliant though non the less.
Next stage, drop the water from a greater high, and instant freeze the drops as they fall, fusing them together, now that would be great, especially falling down a snow covered slope…..
Peter
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quote Peter Normington:Next stage, drop the water from a greater high, and instant freeze the drops as they fall, fusing them together, now that would be great, especially falling down a snow covered slope…..
Peter
then….
as it hits the snow sliding down the slope, it causes an avalanche… smothering all the spectators gasping at the beautiful new sign on show. :lol1: -
ok ……………. you’re getting carried away now ……….. :pink:
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No we’re not, getting carried away is using the water vapour from the engines of a jumbo jet to leave a message in the sky. no need to tow a banner anymore! Wish I had patented the idea before telling you lot…..
Peter
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Found this on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2LUz2WVcek tells you abit more about the sign
Dale
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here’s another video showing it at work.
deleter the link, posted at same time as above !!1 same vid but different link !
seeing how it works, makes me think that i could build one of them (i’m an ex service engineer who was always playing with water valves etc), but i’d be seriously buggered when it comes to the software !!
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