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  • Textile banner & flag material

    Posted by Paul Hodges on February 4, 2006 at 6:47 pm

    Well I am currently trying out just about all the free sample material i can get for the Versacamm sp540v, and this weekend i tried out the metamark polyester banner and flag material.

    Oh dear…it’s virtually unusable……
    The material is so thin that when the printer pushes it through, it doesn’t stay flat, it just rucks up making it impossible to use.
    Both materials had the same characteristics. Has anyone here tried this stuff, if so, how do you get it to work?

    So far, I’m really unimpressed with this material 🙁

    Paul Hodges replied 18 years, 3 months ago 5 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Shane Drew

    Member
    February 5, 2006 at 7:40 am

    Paul is that the one with the paper carier? or without?

  • Paul Hodges

    Member
    February 5, 2006 at 9:29 am

    Shane,

    Neither product has any backing at all, they are being sold as ‘polyester textile banner’ – as a lightweight alternative to standard pvc banner material, and ‘polyester flag material’ for printing flag designs, both products are very similar, may even be the same stuff actually.

    They are basically really lightweight, thin materials but because they have no rigidity in them, getting them through the printer is a nightmare, there is no real weight to the material.

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    February 5, 2006 at 10:01 am
    quote Paul Hodges:

    Shane,

    Neither product has any backing at all, they are being sold as ‘polyester textile banner’ – as a lightweight alternative to standard pvc banner material, and ‘polyester flag material’ for printing flag designs, both products are very similar, may even be the same stuff actually.

    They are basically really lightweight, thin materials but because they have no rigidity in them, getting them through the printer is a nightmare, there is no real weight to the material.

    Thats the problem then. All the textile banner material sold here comes with two options. One with carrier liner and one without.

    The Roland can only use the carrier liner version.

    Not sure what the non carrier version is used on, but my wholesalers here will not sell the non carrier to anyone unless they request it.

  • Paul Hodges

    Member
    February 5, 2006 at 11:24 am

    Hmm, that’s interesting….

    so far as i know, suppliers here don’t sell a carrier backed version, they do sell a mesh banner material which has a backing to catch the ink that goes through the perforations. i found that quite hard to get through the machine but it worked in the end.

    So far, the only material i haven’t had major problems with is vinyl and art canvas, everything else seems to be problematic….

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    February 5, 2006 at 11:32 am

    Paul, this is the stuff I’m talking abaout. Pretty sure it is out of the UK too..

    http://www.halifaxvogel.com.au/Product- … goryID=227

  • Paul Hodges

    Member
    February 5, 2006 at 1:06 pm

    Shane, those products all look good, they are nothing like what i have! i think i might have to check out the other UK suppliers, someone must have similar stuff to what you’re using.

  • John Simpson

    Member
    February 5, 2006 at 9:26 pm

    Paul, I am not sure if this is going to be any use to you but i have need of material to print onto for kitchen roller blinds.
    Grafityp sent me a sample of a plastic rough surface on one side material & smoother on the other side (the printing side).
    It is quite thick as roller blinds are & it prints beautifully on my Rockhopper 62″. I haven’t got their brochure here at home to be able to tell you what it is to ask for, but i am sure it would do for what you need!

    If Nigel from Grafityp is on here he will guide you better, or wait till tomorrow & i will give you the details.
    Hope this helps.

    L J

  • Paul Hodges

    Member
    February 5, 2006 at 10:06 pm

    Cheers John,

    I have an account with grafityp so i could easily go that route. the two materials i am looking for are printable flag material and lightweight textile banner, as opposed to banner pvc which i already use.

  • John Simpson

    Member
    February 5, 2006 at 10:21 pm

    the one i have just tried isn’t the same as banner material, it’s thinner & courser, ideal for what i wanted, thought as it’s more rigid that it would do for flags etc.

    L J

  • Andrew Boyle

    Member
    February 5, 2006 at 10:47 pm

    John,

    if you could also let me know the material………. and if it was suitable for your blinds.

    We printed onto blind material “carnival” without much of a problem [on pre-cut sheets]

    Cheers

    Andrew

  • John Simpson

    Member
    February 5, 2006 at 10:59 pm
    quote Andrew Boyle:

    John,

    if you could also let me know the material………. and if it was suitable for your blinds.

    We printed onto blind material “carnival” without much of a problem [on pre-cut sheets]

    Cheers

    Andrew

    this one is apparently in 25 mt rolls approx £200 plus…. I think 1350 mm

    I intend ordering it, hopefully tomorrow, if i remember.

    L J

  • David Rowland

    Member
    February 5, 2006 at 11:28 pm

    i think flag material curled at the edges for us…

    if it is something like that… get a heater and warm the room up (so the material warms up) to say 22degreees C, then try again, the difference in tempreture will be reduced so less curling.

    i know its been freezing lately

  • Paul Hodges

    Member
    February 6, 2006 at 9:03 am

    I didn’t really get much of a curling problem Dave, more a case of the machine pushes the material forward as it prints, but the material doesn’t actually move forward, it just snags around the rollers, it doesn’t seem rigid enough to actually move forward through the printer. If you can imagine trying to feed a flimsy cotton sheet through your printer, this stuff reacts in the same way.

    For a while, i overcame the problem by continuously pulling the material taught as it came through, but that eventually results in the polyester stretching and the image just comes out blurred where you’ve pulled it out of synch with the machine.

    I intend to phone the suppliers today for an explanation.

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