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    Posted by Gordon Smithard on February 9, 2017 at 2:16 pm

    Not had this before but I tried to remove a QR code sticker from a 4 year old van today and it started taking the paint off with it.
    It’s all original factory paint etc as I fitted all the graphics when it was new.
    I also had to remove some lettering as well from the same panel and didn’t have a problem.
    Also did exactly the same last week on another one of their vans and didn’t have any hassle at all, the only difference being the cold temperature today (all done outside). On both occasions I poured hot water over the lettering and QR code, but possibly didn’t pour as much over the QR code and maybe not warming it up enough, can this, (and coupled with the cold weather) cause it?
    Lettering was Image Perfect 5700, QR codes were printed by someone else and not sure of make but I can probably find out.
    Luckily the customer isn’t too bothered about it, I’m covering the original QR code with white vinyl,(van is white) overlapping the original by 20mm or so to ensure the bare paintwork won’t rust.
    My main questions are: has anybody else had this happen and could it be a fault with the paintwork? as I’ve always been led to believe that factory paintwork is almost bullet proof when it comes to sticker removal etc.

    Gordon Smithard replied 7 years, 2 months ago 9 Members · 11 Replies
  • 11 Replies
  • Pane Talev

    Member
    February 9, 2017 at 3:10 pm

    Can you recognize that you have produced the QR code?

    What is the chance after you’ve done that work, they had a crash and insurance repaired it?

    It happen to me.

    P.S. Otherwise I’m supper surprised that the factory paint work came off.

  • Gordon Smithard

    Member
    February 9, 2017 at 3:25 pm

    I did think of that but the other graphics on the same panel look like my originals, but I suppose it’s possible.
    As I said though, the customers not too bothered about it so maybe he knows it’s been repaired or he’s thinking that the van is 4 years old now and may be replaced in the next two years or so.

  • David Hammond

    Member
    February 9, 2017 at 4:03 pm

    Yes I’ve had this happen, on a few occasions.

    1 was where it had been resprayed (blown over with white), the other was a newish van, but with over 100k on the clock, the paint peeled away like vinyl. The customer was OK with it.

    As a general rule it’s worth explaining this can happen when removing graphics.

  • Chris Wilson

    Member
    February 9, 2017 at 5:42 pm

    Seen it happen on 2 ford vans when working for some else. It was for the local dealship. They weren’t bothered, got told it was faulty Lacour. That was 07/08 vans though. I won’t touch or explain that story to the customer when removing graphics.

  • Chris Tennant

    Member
    February 9, 2017 at 11:04 pm

    Has happened to us a few times, sometimes even "brand new" vans are damaged repaired before they even get to you. I also got questioned from a customer as to why pulling vinyl off a fully wrapped door damaged the paint on his 2006 transit, just so happens that he gave it a quick coat of paint before hand and tried to blame me

  • RickJesse

    Member
    February 10, 2017 at 8:54 am

    Had same problem with a new golf. I was removing the vinyl and pulled a laid of paint off down to bare metal, when by chance the vinyl rep called in. There was nothing we did nor the vinyl rep saw (or covered after their tests) that was an issue our end. The only thing could have been poor factory paint, or as said above a damage repair before it hit the showroom… It’s happens.

  • RickJesse

    Member
    February 10, 2017 at 8:55 am

    Also paint does come away much easier in the cold so try warming the panel with a heat gun a bit more.

  • Chris Windebank

    Member
    February 10, 2017 at 9:05 am

    I used to be a panel beater for a large dealership. I have repaired many new vehicles in my time.
    As long as you did not replace a panel you could beat and fill a vehicle all over and still sell as new!

    They wanted to get them out asap and as most workers were on a time bonus, etch was sometimes missed out before primer and topcoat.

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    February 10, 2017 at 9:54 am

    I had it recently – well, back in the summer really, after wrapping a low profile truck bed top on a 1yr old toyota hilux. The truck top was fine but we had to also put vinyl around the top of the truck bed to prevent the rubber rubbing on the paint – as requested.

    One side of the rear bed had been resprayed and laquered and I did explain that it needed two weeks etc and even then, as a respray we couldn’t guarantee it wouldn’t potentially have issues when removing. When wrapping the top few inches of the bed, I had to start again on one side and it took off a long strip of laquer along the top edge, I phoned and explained what had happened and ironically, it was the untouched factory side that had just lost a load of laquer! thankfully the truck top hid the offending area anyways.

    Not the first time it’s happened to me, I recall stripping a part wrap from a 2yr old sprinter in a body shop (insurance repair) and it took all the laquer with it, we cut through the vinyl and stripped to there, then started from the bottom end and the same thing happened on the entire rear panel!

  • Sean Cully

    Member
    February 10, 2017 at 9:57 am

    Customers moan when vinyl lifts and then on the other hand you have this problem!!S

    SC

  • Gordon Smithard

    Member
    February 10, 2017 at 2:29 pm

    Appreciate the replies folks, makes me more at ease knowing that it’s probably not all down to me.

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