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Take up units
Hi all
Would like to know if anybody has a take up unit from Signmaster, the one they make and supply. Would ideally like to know how it compares to an original take up roller from Roland but any opinions would be appreciated.
cheers
Warren
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Warren not sure on the ones signmaster sell but I have been looking here
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hm thats tidy little machine
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yep will keep a eye on that quite nice.
thanks rich
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Not sure if its the take up one that Rich posted up or if its one of the others that are about but one of the manufacturers is developing one for cut/print machines that will allow it to unroll again to cut the print then take it up again. Radecal also sell take up rollers, they were four or five hundred squid. Havn’t bought one yet but its on my list.
Steve
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Just in case someone wanted to spend a hour of two you can make your own take up reel quite easily. For $20 or less using stuff you might already have. The basic idea is a larger tube ( mine was a shipping tube ) about 18 cm diameter and if possible the length to match your printer. Then center it on a smaller thinner pipe (conduit pipe). You will need to cut end caps for the tube with a hole in the center for the pipe. From there a couple fittings on the ends to hold bearings and mounted into wood blocks. Using a weight on a pulley and wrapping a wire around the thin pipe you get a ratio of turn close to 1-15. This is hard to explain and my web space I use for photos is down but I could email info if interested.
With this set up I have rolled a 120cm by about 250 cm with a 4.5 kg weight. It was at its max for that weight. Add more weight and you could do more. Also this will re wind and wind back up. With the approx. ratio of 1-15, the actual pull on the media is very little. Just keeps it rolling as the printer feeds. I used an old banner for a leader (taped to the take up reel and the other end ( about 120 cm long ) can be taped to the media before you start to print so you don’t have to wait to attach.
Anyway just a thought if someone wanted to try it.
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quote Richard Urquhart:Warren not sure on the ones signmaster sell but I have been looking hereHad one of these for about 8 months now, have had no issues with it at all and have full confidence in leaving the printer going overnight or at least well into it.
Would recommend.
Cheers
Gary
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quote Gary Birch:quote Richard Urquhart:Warren not sure on the ones signmaster sell but I have been looking hereHad one of these for about 8 months now, have had no issues with it at all and have full confidence in leaving the printer going overnight or at least well into it.
Would recommend.
Cheers
Gary
Me too, its very handy!
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cheers guys,
so it doesn’t make a difference or would it be better to have a genuine Roland one?
I have 2 supplier options, one will do a genuine and the other not, it’s not a deal breaker but would be good to know before investing.
cheers
Warren
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If you can get a roland genuine one for the same money as a compatible get the genuine one. Apparantly they are a bit more sophisticated using some sort of optical sensor to detect the slack rather than a slip clutch system. You can tell I’ve been talking to Colin Tupman cant you 😉
Andy
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Warren
I can’t comment on the Roland one one but the one we have is perfectly up to the job mate. I doubt you would have any issues with either to be honest.Cheers
Gary
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I just bought one (non roland) which a received and installed last week.
All i can say is i dont know how i survived without one.
Cost me £299 complete and its a buy well worth it, i wasnt planning on buying one but a guy i buy my media from mentioned it to me and talked me round into buying one
so far i have printed a 15ft piece which i started to print and then left and turned up later where the whole print was nicely rolled around the core ready to tranfer over to the workbench
now i dont have to be rushing back and forth to my printer while on the phone etc
can even use it on print and cut jobs
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mimaka have take up as standard.
A take up is essential with a wide format machine. cant understand why it should be an extra.
how could you print a roll of media without one?Peter
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Ali this is my problem in a small workshop I start running a 4 meter banner and have to keep an eye out for it all over the floor, can you put a link up to where you got yours from and also how it can be ok for print and cut please?
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Richard you can get full details from this website, http://www.xl-ink.co.uk.
yes its perfect for print and cut jobs aswell as it has a tension control system which you can adjust to the weight of media, its best setting to banner media then that covers all other medias.
On this website they retail at £399 i think but if you give him a call and tell him ali from exposure passed his details onto you he should do you one for £299 inc P+P
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Well I was looking in to getting one of these and Colour Mill (from the web link) are selling them at £299 on the well known auction site (rather than the £399 on their web site).
They’ll be at the Show so a bit of arm bending might be in order for a "show discount"!
There’s another seller with the same thing for £349 but for that you get a fancy sticker on it!Pays to look around.
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had a demonstration on a vp540 earlier today, during talks I asked about a take up roller and he quoted £1500 for the Roland unit, when I asked about cheaper 3rd party units he said that using one could possibly invalidate the Roland warranty 😕
I could tell he wasn’t just saying this to try and get an extra sale, it was more him voicing his concerns of Roland seeing it as a get out of jail card in the event of a warranty claim. Thinking about it, I reckon they could chase you if they wanted to because at the end of the day you’ve modified their machine using a 3rd party piece of equipment (?)
Anyone know for sure
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However you could just remove it before you call out the engineer !! Not that I would.
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Just had a quick look at the fitting instructions & see it’s only secured on the stand by thumbscrews, just a case of protecting the stand from damage from the screw heads & as you say Richard just whip it off if expecting a site visit…..not that I would either, to much hassle involved just to save £1200 quid 🙄 😉
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I agree mate as it just hangs of rear support bar, far to much hassle 😮 😮 😮 😮 😮 😮
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quote Peter Normington:mimaka have take up as standard.
A take up is essential with a wide format machine. cant understand why it should be an extra.
how could you print a roll of media without one?Peter
you are right, is a bit like buying a car and having to buy the window wipers after 🙂
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