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  • Swimming pool ceiling graphics

    Posted by Martyn Heath on January 29, 2024 at 6:04 am

    Hi all.
    I’m doing a job for the local swimming pool. They are looking for prints on to the ceiling, going onto the individual tiles which they will fit themselves in the summer when scaffolding is up.

    The boards are sound dampening but the surface does not seem to be fabric but almost like a 1mm thick paper-type texture. I mentioned to them it may damage the boards if the stickers are removed but they said not to worry, they will be there until the building is demolished.

    When doing ceiling work or onto boards as described would you use a good polymeric or go with hi tak?

    Thanks, hope your all well, seems a bit quiet on here these days. Maybe everyone has retired and drinking cocktails on the beach somewhere

    Robert Lambie replied 3 weeks ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Jeff

    Member
    January 29, 2024 at 12:32 pm

    one thing to remember is the moisture in the air and on the surfaces at swimming pools.
    i am going back years but i remember having trouble sticking prints to different surfaces around a pool.
    the only way i can describe it is like condensation when you are putting vinyl onto cold glass and it doesnt want to stick. pain in the a***!

  • Robert Lambie

    Administrator
    January 29, 2024 at 2:04 pm

    I would do whatever you can to adhere a test sample of the material you intend to use, Martyn.
    Maybe an A4 and see how it applies and then leave it there for a week or two at least.

    A slightly textured surface is bad enough, but throw in things like moisture, heat etc. and you could have problems.
    I would certainly use a high-bond adhesive, but my concern would also be “shrinkage” over time. if the bond is not great due to the surface, curling can start. Personally, I would do a test and if I had any concerns, ide use a cast with an aggressive adhesive.
    Your next problem is, will the installers be able properly fit the vinyl? at this point the problems are theirs, but if it comes off, they will blame the material before blaming themselves.

    I may sound negative, but it is better to go in with your eyes open and taking everything into consideration, than just doing it and assuming all will be OK.

  • David McDonald

    Member
    January 31, 2024 at 1:56 pm

    Hi Martyn

    How about direct UV print onto the existing ceiling tiles, probably with a white ink base layer and CMYK over the top.
    We’ve printed onto suspended ceiling tiles and acoustic panels in the past and the textured surface works really well, no worrying about getting a film to stick and the humid air wouldn’t be a problem.

  • Robert Lambie

    Administrator
    January 31, 2024 at 7:46 pm

    @davidmcdonald

    Sounds like your suggestion would be the best option David.
    You would not have the vinyl “application issue” for the installers, or the possible fail of the vinyl on that surface and probably the most cost effective way to do it too. 👍

    I think the key might be the timing, for Martyn. by that i mean, when the scaffold is in place to take the panels down, have them printed and back in place within the time window avilable. I guess if the window is a couple of weeks, then it is certainly doable.

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