Strange Request…

[Peter Normington]

we have done footballs with ordinary vinyl would’t recommend it ours was for promtional purposes not for real football games
i think the only way they can be done to last is by printing but I don’t know the in’s and out’s of doing that I’m sure some one else will
Lynn

[Robert Lambie]

i would imagine the only vinyl sticking proper would be banner vinyl.
even that, i would imagine wouldnt stay put long.
i would suggest trying to cut a stencil of the image in stencil vinyl (very cheap) then using an ink, ink it on, leave a few minutes and remove stencil vinyl it will leave an image that will stand upto the same abuse as any other logo thats on the ball…

[Peter Normington]

you are right Rob banner vinyl doesn’t work well either in fact it’s worse
in our case it didn’t matter I don’t even know if a stencil and paint would work, I think anything to go on a football permantlly has to be done at the time of making I could be wrong I usally am some body tell me differant!!

Lynn

[Moss Whelan]

Thanks both for the advise… Robert I think I will try your recommendation with the ink – any particular ink I should use..? Thanks.

[Robert Lambie]

i would recommend 2 inks.. sericol or Apollo
http://www.apollocolours.co.uk/

i do think inks will work very well, the ink i mention is the same ink that they signwrite curtain sided lorries with. now that takes a pounding and lasts years!

inks are very cheap considering… initial outlay can be expensive but it lasts you… well…. lasted me years! 😉
we bought a tin of white, black, red, green, yellow & blue and a tin of thinner… we only ever used it for making banners, but because you mix a small drop of ink with the thinner and you can do a full banner… it lasts for years like i said.. anyway, call Apollo first as they are cheaper and ask do they do small tins or sample tins.. if you need a odd colour just mix it up yourself and stick left over in a clean tin.. we have dozens of small tins and even some in the masters that made up the various shades…

only thin i would say you must consider is… the intricacy of the graphic!
if its intricate and small the vinyl will chew up… the ink may even bleed under the thin lines of vinyl… if small graphics ide advise a small pad with little ink on it.. just press it onto the stencil and remove, the thinner the ink down the better. give it a gentle dry with a heat gun/hair dryer and it will be dry in a few seconds. then remove stencil…

make sure you do some testers before a live sample

[Rodney Gold]

I do this often , we use Starrex (x-film) polymeric , digitally printed and protected with a conformable semi matt overlam , die cut to fit on the panels of the ball. Pretty durable etc . Obviously determined abuse will remove these , but we clean the panels with spirits , use a scotchpad to slightly roughen them when dry and aplly using rollers etc. The decals last a season or more.
Alternatively , you can laser engrafve the logo into one of the white panels – no colour tho.

[Kevin.Beck]

farm it out to a screen printer…………

[John Singh]

Reminds me of when I had to do an urgent job for a photo shoot
They wanted ‘npower’ put on it. trouble was they wanted it that day.

I ended up quite literally signwriting it on with Signwriter’s One Shot
Trouble with that was although it was fine for the shoot it would not dry properly so it had to be handled carefully.

The special inks Rob is on about would have been better.