Strange request (window wrapping)

[Craig Ross]

I’m guessing they want it all black?

Its do-able but unsure If I would take it on. I suppose if they are paying enough. 🙂

[Tim Painter]

If they are wanting to go black I think it would be the worst colour for shrinkage due to heat if you mitre.

If you apply wrap vinyl in one piece how are you going to post heat without possibly affecting the plastic.

Do the garage door white :lol1: instead

[Craig Ross]

quote Tim Painter:

If you apply wrap vinyl in one piece how are you going to post heat without possibly affecting the plastic.

This did cross my mind with heat gun and pvc. Hmmm…

[David McDonald]

Hi

We’ve changed many shop window frame colours without any issues but these have all been ali framed without any silicon sealant between the frame and the brick work – this will be the problem on domestic windows as you cant wrap over the silicon, cut neatly along the silicon’s wobbly edge etc. etc. Covering the UPVC wont be too hard but should take a fair amount fiddly install time (not to mention cleaning time) but the sealant will still be round the edges in its original colour.

I’d be tempted to avoid the job

Cheers
Macky

[David-Foster-]

Best bet is to paint it with uPVC paint. It soaks into the plastic and guaranteed 15 years.

http://www.kolorbond.co.uk/

[Robert Lambie]

Davids paint suggestion might be a good option.

We have done a good few colour changes on PVC windows for a friend that owns a builders company. It was done as more a favour than anything and it "is time consuming".
we had them delivered to us to do, if your doing on site make sure your charging by the hour.

I think we just used Brown Oracal 751 Cast. cut to strips and mitred at the corners.

[Phill Fenton]

I guess it’s all down to what type of business are you in?

Are you a sign maker, or a wrapper?

I’m often astonished at the assumption people have that because I’m a sign maker, I must do wrapping!

I believe sign making and wrapping are two separate trades/skills.

Yes, a lot of sign makers do do vehicle wrapping , but equally many don’t.

And there is a gap in the market for "colour change" experts to provide a wrapping service that has nothing to do with sign making.

I consider myself to be a sign maker that occasionally may suggest a vehicle wrap as a solution to realise a design that could not be done using conventional vinyl.

I do not do colour changes in my current business model, but I recognise that there is a market for any company that provides a colour change service.

This can be done without any equipment, software or design skills, you simply buy the colour change vinyl and provide a service fitting it.

If it was me – I would say no – this is not the business I am in. But that’s not to say it is not a viable business for someone.

John, you have to decide what is your business model? Does this include wrapping amongst your portfolio? If not then turn the job down. If you are interested in offering a wrapping service then why not take the job on?

The bottom line is is, it a service you can provide that will allow you to make a profit?

[John Harding]

Thanks all for the replies all taken on board, will have a look at the job later this week and see how I feel about it, the silicon issue is the most valid hurdle to overcome which may be the deal breaker – will let you know how we progress

Thanks john 😀

[Martin Cole]

my 2000th post specially for you John..

anyway I reckon that’s one of those jobs you sometimes take on then think ‘what the **** am I doing’ once started……

Spray painted must be the way to go 😕

You could always prove us wrong though…. 😉

If it was me I’d……

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[Steve Morgan]

I did a colour change on a shop front some while ago, onto an aluminium frame which was almost square section and it took hours and hours to complete. The cutting and the endless cleaning and I was working at ground level – cheaper for the bloke to have new windows fitted.
As Martin says – Walk away

[Rachel Oakley]

John

We recently introduced a dedicated product for this, Avery facade film, please contact your local Avery Dennison graphics distributor for information. The advantage of using Avery Facade film is that unlike paint you can apply it onto PVC windows and you don’t have the inconvenience of waiting for paint to dry, which is great for doing an overnight restyling.

For tips and tricks on how to apply the film, login to
http://www.academy.averygraphics.com (it’s free to register) and look for the frames section in the "how to videos".

With kind regards
Rachel Oakley
Senior European Product Manager
Avery Dennison Graphics and Reflective Solutions