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  • Stains on a wrapped car, any ideas? Help please?

    Posted by Chris Foster on August 16, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    Recently wrapped a customers BMW convertible using 3M 1080 gloss white, job was fantastic and customer was over the moon. Anyway she has recently noticed that she has got some small orangey/red stains on the vinyl and is unable to get them off, particularly the bonnet, she has tried soap/water, white spirit, even bleach (she’s just told me this!!) but the stains aren’t coming off. She did say it looks like it could be tree sap or something off of a tree she parks next to at home.

    Anyhow is there anything I can recommend to her to clean it off with? Would Isopropyl do the trick? I’ve told her to leave it for now and stop trying anything else!!

    Cheers
    Chris

    Jon Marshall replied 9 years, 1 month ago 7 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Tim de Beir

    Member
    August 16, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    you can polish wrap vinyl like you polish paint… perhaps that would help?

  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    August 16, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    Without knowing what it is then it’s difficult to say what might remove it but IPA is worth a try & it won’t do the vinyl any damage. I use it for pretty much all of my cleaning & it seems to shift most things. If you don’t keep it yourself you can buy it at the chemists I believe. Tar & glue remover might be another option, I’ve used that a few times as well & it doesn’t seem to damage the vinyl.
    If you know a local vehicle valeter might be worth speaking to them as well.

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    August 16, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    Hi Chris,
    would I be right in guessing you use Magnets when applying your wraps to hold the media in place?

    if you do, then thats most likely the problem for these orange tinge marks.
    depending on the type of magnet you use, they often stain white media.
    i have all the magnets sitting on metal holders in the training truck, there is a white circle of vinyl below them for this very purpose, to show that the magnets stain the vinyl and its impossible to remove.

    not saying this IS your reason, but if you use magnets ide say this is most probably the reason.

  • Chris Hansen

    Member
    August 17, 2012 at 1:45 am

    If it is sap or anything like batsh*t, try a bit of brake fluid/cleaner in a tiny area. Works on paint, not sure how it will react with vinyl though 😮

  • Dan Osterbery

    Member
    August 17, 2012 at 8:37 am

    We have had a similiar problem and we think it is tree sap! be very careful trying to remove it from the laminate, dont use anything abrasive, as it does remove it the first time and then as the laminate has lost its sheen you will not get it off again and the laminate looks dull and dirty! done this on two vehicles! We advise on our after care sheet not to park under sap dropping trees! it is my opinion that tree sap is nasty stuff and is a wrap killer! Its got two of our vehicles and one of my clients, so if anyone does have a wonder solution i would be very grateful.

    cheers

    Dan

    p.s. we fitted felt to the back of our magnets to get rid of the staining problem!

  • Chris Foster

    Member
    August 17, 2012 at 8:58 am

    Thanks for the replies guys, I was thinking that Isoprypol or brake fluid may do it but doubt she’d have any of that available (ill sort her some out…!)….. They have tried polish but didnt come out.

    Robert – I do use magnets but due to previous experience I always put a small thin piece of lint around them! I’ve only seen one small phone pic of hte stain and it doesnt look to be that shape, good suggestion though it did make me think for a minute!

    Dan – does look like tree sap and she lives on a farm with stables/trees etc and parks quite close to a tree (i did warn her being white now she will have to look after it….). Felt is a good idea for the magnets I usually wrap a small lint round them!

    Im popping up there this weekend so will see with my own eyes what its like!

    Cheers
    Chris

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    August 17, 2012 at 11:58 am

    hi chris

    dont let the shape of it rule it out. we have had dots in a triangle shape. half moon, som just a hazy cloud shape etc etc i think the age of the magnet also determines how dark, fast, shape it leaves.

    as i say, may not be… just the shapes ive seen left greatly vary also.
    the reason i was more inclined to think it was that was the fact your having such

    best of luck getting it sorted mate.

  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    August 17, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    Robert not heard of this before, does it happen with all the magnets or just certain ones???

    Surely though if the magnets had been the cause in this case then the marks would have been on the vehicle before it left the shop, not at some point in the future.

    Not keen on the idea of a bit of felt because anything like that will reduce the effectiveness of the magnets but would have to try for myself before ruling it out for use. Obviously works for Dan.

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    August 17, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    Hi Martin

    they can be easily missed mate, i have missed it twice. one time i had to redo a section of a vehicle. wasn’t a big deal but does happen. because your busy working away and this tinge yellow, orange can easily be overlooked in a workshop and only noticed when outside in the sun.

    i recon the cheaper magnets on the magnet "maybe" worse than the more expensive branded ones like Avery have, but i am just guessing that… theres actually lots of different types of magnet for wrapping and the covering on them to protect the magnet between it and the car varies too. which might also be a reason for some staining more than others.

    as i said mate, its just something i did in the training unit to highlight a fault wrappers should be wary of.

  • Dan Osterbery

    Member
    August 17, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    we bought our from Jag and found without the felt they would leave orangey/reddy marks and if left on for a long time you almost get the full circle, it seems to effect printed wrap material the worst, felt has cured it for us though, but did take a lot of working out what was causing it, until we read on here about others with similar problems!

    cheers

    Dan

  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    August 17, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    Not saying your wrong Robert, far from it but if it had been caused by the magnets I would have thought the customer would have noticed straight away, not after a period of time.
    I would think most customers go over a wrap with a fine tooth comb having spent a lot of money.

    If I had been able to get on the training course then I would already have known about this Robert :lol1: :lol1: 😉

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    August 17, 2012 at 5:48 pm
    quote Martin:

    Not saying your wrong Robert, far from it but if it had been caused by the magnets I would have thought the customer would have noticed straight away, not after a period of time.
    I would think most customers go over a wrap with a fine tooth comb having spent a lot of money.

    If I had been able to get on the training course then I would already have known about this Robert :lol1: :lol1: 😉

    :lol1: :lol1: i could well be wrong mate, im really just throwing in a suggestion due to the difficulty in removing a colour that is often associated with magnets. :lol1:

    as for training, will keep you posted as more dates set to be released.

  • Jon Marshall

    Member
    April 16, 2015 at 12:20 pm

    Is there anything on the market now for cleaning wraps with ingrained dirt? We’ve had a few of the gloss white wraps we did a year or so ago back in recently and they have been quite stained where the owners haven’t washed them all that regularly.
    I’ve tried various chemicals/products and nothing really works all that well.

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