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  • source needed please for secret sign fixings?

    Posted by Neil Herbert on February 17, 2008 at 9:54 pm

    Hi does any one out there know where i can by this type of fixing see drawing below any help will be much apprectated.

    cheers

    Neil


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    Tim Painter replied 16 years, 2 months ago 7 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    February 17, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    they can be made pretty easily mate. but there is a supplier in the UK. cant remember who though… they were posted on the boards a few months back if you try searching for them.
    out of interest, is the sign large and is it only being hung indoors or out?

  • Neil Herbert

    Member
    February 17, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    Hi Rob the sign is going outside and is 1800mm high x 1400mm wide dibond fitted on to two posts.

    Neil

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    February 17, 2008 at 11:02 pm

    why not just use channel and clips to fix?
    using this type of bracket will mean it can easily lifted off and pinched.
    hence why i was asking if its temp.

  • Neil Herbert

    Member
    February 17, 2008 at 11:18 pm

    I was going to fit two sets of rails one top one bottom facing opposite ways and slide the sign on from the side and lock the rails together with a self tapper on the ends.

    Neil

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    February 17, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    Thats a large area of dibond to fix direct to posts,
    as Rob said you will need some extra strengthening, otherwise the rivets or whatever you are using will just give way in the first mild wind.

    I would say 4 rails fitted horizontally, (Standard sign rails, forget the generic term for them)and clips to suit

    peter

  • Neil Herbert

    Member
    February 18, 2008 at 12:09 am

    Hi peter I thought the slide on method would allow for some expansion and I could still fit 4 rails.

    Where would recommend to buy channel and clips from.

    Neil

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    February 18, 2008 at 8:32 am

    Neil
    Cherwell sign sign supplies (01280-840297)
    or
    Ashby http://www.ashbytrade.co.uk/postclips.htm
    (not sure if ashby sell the rail separate, but they fit it to their pre-made signs)

    Peter

  • Russell Spencer

    Member
    February 18, 2008 at 9:54 am
    quote DNN Signs:

    Hi peter I thought the slide on method would allow for some expansion and I could still fit 4 rails.

    Neil

    The good thing about dibond is that the expansion co-efficient is negligible. The last time I worked it out, over a 16′ sign I think it worked out to just under 2.0mm.

  • Graeme Harrold

    Member
    February 18, 2008 at 8:33 pm
    quote signsurfer:

    quote DNN Signs:

    Hi peter I thought the slide on method would allow for some expansion and I could still fit 4 rails.

    Neil

    The good thing about dibond is that the expansion co-efficient is negligible. The last time I worked it out, over a 16′ sign I think it worked out to just under 2.0mm.

    Over what temperature range was that?? and was that for air temperature or the actual temp of the sign?

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    February 18, 2008 at 9:18 pm

    This was the thread with the discussion about the fixings you have drawn

    https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.p … ght=foamex

  • Neil Herbert

    Member
    February 18, 2008 at 9:26 pm

    Thanks Warren that’s what I had in mind.

    Thanks to all for your help will post some pic’s when finished.

    Cheers

    Neil

  • Tim Painter

    Member
    February 18, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    Graeme

    Dibond spec sheets quote linear thermal expansion @ 2.4mm / m at 100 deg C temp difference.

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