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  • Snack Van Wrap, help and advice?

    Posted by Sean Graham on May 15, 2017 at 7:51 am

    Got a Snack Van coming in this week for a full wrap.

    Now the backend of it will obviously have joins/over laps in the material.

    Will I be best to put an edge sealer on those joins/over laps?

    Thanks

    David Stevenson replied 6 years, 8 months ago 8 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Jamie Wood

    Member
    May 15, 2017 at 10:19 am

    We’ve done quite a few of these, and have never used edge sealer, so I think you’d be OK.

  • Shawn Bentley

    Member
    May 15, 2017 at 1:19 pm

    hi sean,
    same here mate do these regularly and never use edge sealer. hope this helps good luck.

  • Sean Graham

    Member
    May 15, 2017 at 6:03 pm

    Thanks lads appreicate the comments. Starting it tomorrow [THUMBS UP SIGN]

  • David Stevenson

    Member
    May 19, 2017 at 8:47 pm

    No need for edge sealer although make sure you put the sheets on in the right order. If fitting horizontal fit bottom sheet first so rain water runs off rather than behind the seam. If fitting vertically fit the back sheets first so wind / rain / branches don’t catch the edges when been towed.

  • PAUL S ERRINGTON

    Member
    August 4, 2017 at 9:48 pm

    No i never use frog sealer type edge seal products.. Just a good calendared vinyl/ m7 .. I would say the biggest enemy is the silicon edged aluminium id build is rushed..and some a bit less than neat.. I trim away from it if 3mm by if big..paint a tiny bit of 3m primer on it with a print head ink blot stick/ bigcotton bud.. heatgun to dry 5min, ready to wrap.. hope this helps in future 🙂 wrapped a few!

  • Kevin Mahoney

    Member
    August 4, 2017 at 10:16 pm

    Nice to see one in such good nick, last one I had, the client asked if our vinyl would cover two fork lift holes in the back end.

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    August 7, 2017 at 10:41 pm

    You do not need edge sealer, nor any primer.

    Wrap it in a Polymeric Calendered Vinyl. Be sure to laminate in equivalent lamination film.

    If there is silicon around the edges, just trim it back 3-5mm. Yes this is to keep the vinyl away from the silicon because it will simply lift back off the silicon within a short time and look bad. However, the larger gap, space between silicon and vinyl, "even if exposing white of the box" is to allow for the channelling of dirty water that continuously runs down these areas catching in any shrinkage or pullback of the media, making it worse and leading to a possible fail. This goes for cutting round latches and more, trim it back a few mm. yes it looks neat but does last.

    Overlaps can be whatever you want, the larger the overlap the more tolerance you have to align panels.
    Minimum i would say is 10mm but i often do as much as 20mm when wrapping 44ft artic trucks.

    If you struggle with large panel applications, use an air release bubble free adhesive system with whatever digital film you choose.

    I am not knocking anyone for the back to front laying down of the drops of vinyl, but this is not a problem and something that only happens when panels are applied wet!
    My opinion of course but one i have posted countless times here on UKSB over the years and i have been wrapping trucks for 27+ years.
    I could go into this much more, but the bottom line is, we all know vinyl onto vinyl sticks like sh1t!
    so your overlap of vinyl should actually adhere better to the overlap of media than it does to general british temperature metal or GRP.
    Regardless, if overlaps of vinyl onto vinyl created wind drag enough to make the media fail, every single multi-layer vinyl job worldwide would be failing. by that i mean, since cadcam vinyl graphics began, you would stack… lets say, a yellow letter on top of a black outline of the letter. making two layers for a single letter effect. where is all the wind drag fails reported here?
    Another one, what about train wraps which go both ways down the track at higher speeds?
    Yes we could argue best practice is to edge seal and more, but reality is if the vinyl is installed correctly with a suitable media for the installation in question, there should be no fails what so ever.
    As i say, wet application methods on large tile/panel jobs like this is where the fails boil down to for various reasons.

  • Leigh Howden

    Member
    August 8, 2017 at 7:30 pm

    I remember the train scenario when I did your wrap course rob

    I always got left to right and like you done so many catering units and 40ft trailers I have lost count. Never had one fail based on vinyl overlaps being "the wrong way round" even my 33ft rv is wrapped left to right and no problems

  • David Stevenson

    Member
    August 9, 2017 at 9:03 am

    I’d always questioned the back to front theory myself based on like you said Rob about how well vinyl sticks to itself. It was something Justin Pate spoke about when I was on a wrap course with him. Personally I prefer working left to right. Perhaps it’s because it’s what we’re used to when writing?

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