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  • Sign Blank Options Please

    Posted by Pryam Carter on November 4, 2005 at 7:57 pm

    I have a client who has aquired a large premises and turned a space of the premises into six large units.
    He wants each unit to have the same sign blank above the shutter door 3660 x 1220mm.
    The firms who rent a unit from him will then have a sign blank to fix a sign to.
    I was thinking of using a panatrim frame and dibond panel, the signage can then be fixed to the dibond panel.
    My client thinks having the same sign blank above each shutter door (even if the sign within the blank is small) will look better.
    Anyone got any other ideas please?

    Pryam Carter replied 18 years, 5 months ago 4 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Peter Normington

    Member
    November 4, 2005 at 9:24 pm

    Not quite following the plot here.
    The size you have given is just a bit to large for a 3050 x 1500 dibond panel, it is a large sign though, dont know if you or the client really want them to be that big, is that the width of the roller shutter, and the other question has to be what is the maximum viewing distance?
    peter

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    November 4, 2005 at 10:15 pm

    are these units enclosed in a fenced off area billy?

  • Pryam Carter

    Member
    November 6, 2005 at 2:43 pm
    quote :

    are these units enclosed in a fenced off area billy?

    No Rob.

    quote :

    The size you have given is just a bit to large for a 3050 x 1500 dibond panel, it is a large sign though, dont know if you or the client really want them to be that big, is that the width of the roller shutter, and the other question has to be what is the maximum viewing distance?

    I was thinking 1.5 dibond sheets Peter. This size is just wider than the Roller shutter. Viewing distance isn’t that far really, it’s a large building. there is a sign above one shutter at the moment and it is 3050 x 750mm and it is lost up there.
    I need a blank that looks the part and will be easy for sign firms to fix to. The signs that will be fixed to it don’t have to be the same size as the blank according to the client. I asked him why he didn’t stipulate to whoever was moving in that the sign has to be of a certain size, he says that he doesn’t want to dictate that to them. Just to provide a blank for them.
    I think this is a weird one myself but all options will be taken on board as i need a price for my client by Tuesday.

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    November 6, 2005 at 5:48 pm

    billy
    if its just a sign blank, long term winner would be a sheet of 8×4 aluminum rivet ted to the cladding.
    if its an appearance thing, then aluminum in panatrim.
    dibond etc looks good and can get bigger sizes in one sheet, floating in a panatrim fascia in an open industrial estate will leave it open to bricks getting lobbed. the dibond dents/marks easier than aluminum.
    that said if its riveted to building face it will stand up to dents much better.

    at the end of the day, if you just want the signs to go up and look good, go for what you said in first place. nothing wrong with that at all.

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    November 6, 2005 at 7:39 pm

    Again not sure on what you mean, if the client wants blanks for all the units but dosnt want to specify a standard size for each unit, then cant see the point off the blanks, some firms may want to have an oval sign for instance.
    It would be better to talk the owner of the units into specifiyng the signage size for all units and putting it the rent/lease agreement , that he will arrange for the signage (with you of course) so that conformaty can be achieved.
    Putting up a blank seems pointless. each unit will then just put up what they want anyway, on top of the blank.

    Peter

  • Pryam Carter

    Member
    November 6, 2005 at 8:24 pm

    Putting up a blank seems pointless. each unit will then just put up what they want anyway, on top of the blank.

    quote :

    Thats exactly right Peter, but thats what he wants.

    Rob…….not got any experience in aluminium sheets, can you get it finished in colour and how much a sheet?

  • Pryam Carter

    Member
    November 6, 2005 at 8:27 pm

    Not got the hang of the quote thing, l’ll try again 😳 😳

    quote :

    Putting up a blank seems pointless. each unit will then just put up what they want anyway, on top of the blank.

    Thats right Peter.

    Rob, question in post above, got typing finger syndrome 😥

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    November 6, 2005 at 8:41 pm

    If thats what he wants, go for it, alli sheets are best powder coated and perhaps with radiused corners? http://www.ashbytrade.co.uk can supply
    For fixing to cladding you could either use self drilling and tapping screws.
    or get ashby to fit a fixing rail, top and bottom would look good standing off from the wall But that would only work if you can gain access to the interior to fix.
    4mm dibond would be cheaper and lighter but either option would be better in a frame so fixings are not seen, other wise use white caps for the screws.
    You could always have a tray made out of either material, or just folded top and bottom, fill the ends in with flat pieces of the same material, but that would depend on how much the client wants to spend.
    Peter

    Peter

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    November 6, 2005 at 8:46 pm

    FOR BLANK ALLUMINIUM SHEETS 2MM IN COLOURS CALL AMARI AND ASK FOR SIGNI-COLOUR (I THINK THATS NAME) THESE ARE ALLUMINIUM SHEETS FACTORY SPRAYED WITH AUTO PAINT, SO COLOUR LIFE IS GOOD. I USE IT ALLOT FOR FLAT CUT ALLUMINIUM LETTERS.

  • Cammy – Europoint Display

    Member
    November 8, 2005 at 5:13 pm

    You could use any one of the various aluminum composite sheets on the market , colours are available in 3050 x 1500 , this would give you a base for your signs, a silver colour may blend in more easily with the colour of the corrugated fascia or just white if neutral is preferred.
    The selling point for these products over Aluminum is the lightweight and no scrap value. long term exterior use is not a problem.

  • Pryam Carter

    Member
    November 9, 2005 at 8:08 pm

    Thanks for the advice all. You all had the same idea as i did, i was wondering if there was anything on the market that l’d missed.
    The customer has the price now so we’ll see.

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