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Shop Signs : Illuminated & S/steel
Just thought I’d share some of the hair shop signs I did recently….
Nigel
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I cant work out how to add more images to that post so heres another….
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Really impressive Nigel!
Very “high-class”!
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Bloody marvellous. That halo effect is just the dog’s thingys. I’ve never done any halo lit letters before. What’s the deal with all the wiring? Do you do it yourself or get an electrician in. I saw one of these being fitted near me recently and there were wires everywhere.
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and the last one which I’m putting up tomorrow, will need to get a better digital camera looking at these slightly iffy pics 😀
Thanks Jill btw 😉
Nigel
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top class nigel as is all your work!! i really like the cristian hair & beauty
specially lit up!! 😛 😛Nik
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Blimey Nigel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😮 😮 😮 😮 😮 😮
You never cease to amaze me! Are you sure you run your business single handedly? 😉 I’m definately buying that cape for you now!
Really impressed with both the quality of the materials and the design of all of these signs. The halo’d s/s lettering is very impressive. Talk about a portfolio though mate!!!! Must be overflowing! 😎
Inspirational!
Cheers, Dewi
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Thanks Nik + Big G + Jill 😛
I try and make them as nice as I possibly can within the demends of the customer and also the budget too !
BigG, I do almost all my own wiring up on these jobs – I have to say I have no offical training in this field but have a fairly good understanding of the necessary, some might call it an unfounded confidence I guess !. But I dont really have a problem with that side of it.
The neon is pretty simple stuff really if you can construct the sign in such a way as to be able to assemble it off-site. Like the Christian one which was made up with all the drilling etc done back at base. It just consists of a continuous run of HT cable which loops in and out of each letter, so all are connected in series, then you just have two ends of the cable which run in through the facia to the transformer unit inside. Of course with these installations you have to fit a exterior fire switch on the building for saftey too. I like the variation of work, its nice to be switching between a bit of design work, to vinyl app to electrical – keeps the days from getting tedious anyway 😉EDIT – Sorry dewi I posted while you were typing mate – thanks also and yep I really do run it all single handed, just wish I had an extra pair most of the time though 🙂 I’ve just done a layout/quote today for ANOTHER hair shop for a guy who’s apparently quite well known “Charles Worthington” ?? never heard of him myself but I’ve been told it would be a nice one for the potfolio as you say – trouble is its in central london 😥
Nigel
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I take it you do other establishments as well, but how come you’re doing so much work for barnet shops? (sorry, hairdressers, for you of a non London extraction) Do they all know each other and recommend you?
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well well well.. nigel if i didnt know the swear filter would sensor me ide tell you those are f****** magic.. top notch mate.. ill have questions for you so watch out.. im always keen to learn new stuff.. 😉
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Superb examples of what us common plebs are striving to achieve.
I would say ‘must have been worth a free haircut’ but I’ve just clocked your photo!
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WOW! Brilliant stuff Nigel as usual with you, very impressive and a pleasure to see thanks for sharing with us.
Did you do the blinds as well, if so any contacts/recommandations?
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Dave
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Gotta echo the praise you’ve already had on theses Nigel, excellent looking work. I take it these
are the images you mention in my post? With your permission I’ll download these images to show
to my lead next time I see them. These should help persuade them into opening their thoughts
up to new ideas 😀
Also if its not to cheeky would you pm me an idea of costs and what you charged for each.
That way I should be able to tell if this clients a time waster or not. I know its a big ask so feel
free to decline.BTW just check the expensive shelves in Boots hair care for an idea of Charles Worthington
the Brand. An excellent client for your already burgeoning portfolio.Nice one 😀
Cheers
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Fantastic Stuff Nigel……
Do you do the neon patterns or get the glass shop to make it up to the letters?
On the hair dressers, did you do the back ground panels.. (Folded tray) or was it already there?
Looks very expensive… brilliant!Simon
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As everyone has said top stuff Nigel.
I would be interested in knowing how you persuade your customers to go for quality work like these. All I get is “cheap, cheap, cheap” and thats not just from the pet shops!Would be great to see a demo for the halo lighting.
Well done
Johnny 😮
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I’ve always been a fan of Halo.
Nice work Nigal
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Gee thanks for the praise guys/gals 😳 I will answer the points raised later when I got a little more time, just got back from fitting the Pascal Chevallier sign in london – bad timing on my part spent 1.5hrs in traffic jam on the M1 😥 Oh well its done now !!
Nigel
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I know you use a exterior fire switch but do you also earth each letter to a backtray?
I’m guessing you subtract all your neon? Do you also subby your ss built ups?
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Great stuff Nigel and thanks for sharing it with us, the only thing I would say is if you are doing your own installations be a bit careful. I am happy to do any electrical work that needs to be done however to enter a fuseway you have to hold a 16 edition qualification which I don’t so I won’t wire anything direct to a fusebox and under some fairly new legislation you need a qualification to install neon so I normally do all the work and get an electrician I know to make the final connections.
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I didn’t know about that legislation, How recent is it and how much do you feel its been enforced?
This could be quite a blow for fitters who don’t have any qualifications yet have years of experience.
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just to echo everyone elses comments nigel, very nice work.
craig
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OK lets try and reply where needed to your kind comments !
BigG –
quote :I take it you do other establishments as well, but how come you’re doing so much work for barnet shops? (sorry, hairdressers, for you of a non London extraction) Do they all know each other and recommend you?Well I just seem to have had a bit of a run on these recently (yes there are more than I have actually show!) don’t really know why and it’s not a particular speciality. Although I have started to a fair number for a shopfitting company that does specialise in them so that accounts for the London ones anyway !
Rob – Thanks for your appreciation, I will do my best to help when ever possible as always 😉
Fluidedge –
quote :Superb examples of what us common plebs are striving to achieve.
I would say ‘must have been worth a free haircut’ but I’ve just clocked your photo!Don’t put yourself down mate, I’m sure you have got some pretty smart looking jobs on file too 🙂 I do take great pride in producing a finished article that I (and others) will be able to look at and think ‘yeah that looks really the dogs wotsits !’ Being able to do this for customers is what keeps me going in this industry, that and the lovely warm glow I get inside when I know I have done a job that looks great 😀
I do get the odd free hair cut sometimes but as you spotted, there aint much styling involved anymore 😕 !!Dave – I didn’t actually do these blinds but I have done some very similar – All I do is get a standard blind or the customer supplies and if it just wants a single colour name or logo then just use a vinyl paint mask and spray paint with acrylic aerosol of some sort. It seems to last a long enough time and is nice and cheap. You have to be a bit careful with some material types that it doesn’t “bleed” under the vinyl mask as the paint “wicks” its way into the material. To avoid this I just build up coats of fairly “dry” paint which also avoids the danger of too much solvent contact with the blind material.
Pete – I’ll send pm covering the costs etc you wanted, hope these might help you sell something nice looking to you client !
quote :BTW just check the expensive shelves in Boots hair care for an idea of Charles Worthington
the Brand. An excellent client for your already burgeoning portfolio.Everyone seems to have heard of this guy (particularly females I’m finding, no offence 😕 ) apart from me – guess he must be some sort of hairdressing god 😉
Simon – Some neon glass I do my own patterns for but I don’t really do that much and I normally get the supplier to match up with the built-ups if it is a halo job like the Christian one – saves any probs with tube that doesn’t quite fit ! On that job I supplied and fitted the whole lot (two facias the same) which was good because that meant little work with assembly on site. It was expensive but looks great I think, wish I could get some more customers to stump up the cash !
Johnny – I’m not sure how I do but I think particularly in the hairdressing industry that image seems to create such an important customer following that they are prepared to splash out more on the fancy signs. I almost always try and offer customers a cheaper alternative if they look like they want it but always “sell” the benefits of the really nice versions and better quality materials. For example the Headquaters sign was 1200mm deep and I explained the pros and cons of using foam pvc vs dibond and when you spell out the benefits I find they make their own mind up without too much prompting and usually lean towards the better choice. Works for me some of the time but there is always going to be the customers who want cheap signs and don’t appear to care to much about the image it portrays, I just try and steer my business more towards the other clients if possible 😀 I would be happy to do a demo on halo lighting if I felt more competant/experienced but I think this one might be best left to someone who deals more with this fabrication in house, I know there are others on the board who do so maybe they could have a go for all of our benefits !
Fish90 – Hi and welcome to the SignBoards : thanks for saying hello and keep posting 😀
Skeet – Yes I do earth any metal components that could be touched like the letters/tray etc. And you are right, I do sub out the neon and the builtups, mainly because I dont have the space or experience to deal with these sides of the trade. In my experience it is best to let people who specialise do what they do best and leave myself free to co-ordinate the job as a “whole”.
Martin – I take your point and agree you have to be very careful when dealing with this side of the trade, both legaly and physically (blown-up)
As Skeet said, I to was not aware of this new neon legislation, do you know any more about it or where to find further information ? I wouldn’t go as far as dealing with installing new breakers or fuses in main boards, but am happy to deal with general “spur” type lighting or timers or dawn/dusk sensors etc although I would never claim to be an electrician and if the customer had any doubts I would duck out of the electrical side of the installation.Craig – thanks mate, you do quite a bit of neon from what I can gather ? have you any info regarding fitting legislation 😕
Thanks again for all your praise, it’s a real boost to have such nice comments from others in the industry 😉
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The next fascia or fitting job we do with halo or face illimunation I will take some pictures and do a demo…I think video would be too much but I’ll do something.
Originally Hilliard&Winn where trade neon specialists but have since branched out with 25 years experience in supplying neon.
Some great signs there creative welldone 🙂
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dave, i screenprint for the largest blind manufacturer in britain!
it’s not a cheap service i provided, but it’s bloody good printing cannot afford to botch the blinds with ink or i am liable for re-runs!!
i’ve done the queen mary ship, scottish arts council, moet chandon to name a few, if you want any advice or quotes i’d be willing to help you out!!
Nik
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Thanks Nik, I’ll give you a shout when needed, just mist an order for 4 large restaurant roller blinds. The guy got them from Chris Cross(?) may be you do theirs as well?
Cheers
Dave
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yes that’s them Chris Craft (Stevens of Scotland Ltd)
Nik
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dave what was the name of the restaurant?
Nik
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Nigel
Regarding the fitting legislation, i’m only aware of the new CSCS card scheme. The schemes run by the BSGA being for illuminated and non illuminated. The illuminated one covering high voltage installations.
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Nik the restaurant is called Piazza
Dave
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yes that’s right dave i did those a fortnight ago!!!
design & colour was the clients! they looked good with the black border!
Nik
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Excellent work Nigel, it all looks great!!!! 😀
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Hi Nigel
Very nice works! 😮
Can you tell me what font did you use on “Headquarters” sign?
I would like get this font, but I can’t identify.Many thanks!
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I have sent you a pm too, but the font is called Dax just in case anyone else was interested !
Nigel
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Great looking work Nigel,
We just sort of bumped into each other at the Sign UK, would have been fun to have had more time and talk about some idéas and techniques.
Very impressive work.
Great that you took the time to share it, I for one really like seeing peoples work.
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