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    Posted by Matt Hards on November 22, 2007 at 1:30 pm

    Yesterdays job,

    10mm foamex glued and screwed.
    Hexis suptac Clover green and white vinyl.

    It took me and my dad an hour and a half to rip down old sign and fit this fascia. Is this about right or am i really slow, lol.
    Also about an hour and half to cut and make sign.

    cheers matt


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    Peter Dee replied 16 years, 5 months ago 8 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Gareth Williams

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 2:54 pm

    Hi Matt

    An hour an half seems about right.

    wouldn`t it have been easier to cut the text in the green and lay it up that way so that you would save on vinyl?

    Gareth

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 2:59 pm

    I suspect it’s because the Foamex is matt and the vinyl gloss 😕 I personally think you should have used Dibond 😕

    otherwise not bad, a little squashed, more negative space would have been better but over-all OK.

  • Gareth Williams

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 3:07 pm

    I would have used dibond as I am not a lover of fomex.

    Gareth

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 3:08 pm

    Now you need to sell a new sign to the business on the left!
    😀
    Looks fine to me, that was always one of my favorite letterstyles (on Minnie’s)
    Love….Jill

  • Matt Hards

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 3:22 pm

    Well the customer didnt want to go mad on price. as usual, lol, and dibond always seems a hell of a lot more expensive whenever i get prices. this is 10mm so should be ok, wouldnt use 5mm, warps too much. I used the white vinyl as i wanted a gloss finish on the letters as said.

  • Steve Thornton

    Member
    November 23, 2007 at 2:22 pm

    Just a tip. Are you doing his menu boards and other internal signage, they can be a good little earner too.

  • Matt Hards

    Member
    November 23, 2007 at 3:57 pm

    yes i have his menu board to do , minus the prices, which will be written up by hand, as easier for him to change i guess. Not sure on other signage yet, but i do have all his staff uniforms to logo up on the old heat press.

  • Richard Urquhart

    Member
    November 23, 2007 at 4:28 pm

    Matt the signs fine but i have to say I cant stand fixing through the front of the sign !!
    I also understand cost is a major part but doing this sort of work wont help when a customer who has money to spend see fixings like that, please dont take it the wrong way mate its what the customer can afford

    Rich

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    November 23, 2007 at 4:31 pm

    looks fine matt. though as Rich says, fixings..)

    re foamex vs dibond… i think i too woulda been tempted to go the dibond route, i rarely use foamex these days,

    from STS in maidstone, who i use if i only need one or two sheets, 10mm simapor light foam is £43.50 +vat, 3mm single faced white dibond is 49.99 or coloured is £51.99+, not a great deal in it, i always suggest dibond over foam due to the longer life, plus i don’t have to flood it, foam gets dirty, so any naked foam will get mucky quick!! by the time you flood foamboard it’s the price of dibond and then some.

    cheers.
    Hugh

  • Matt Hards

    Member
    November 24, 2007 at 8:36 am

    they are better prices than i have found hugh, that has made me sit up and look for sure. Im not a massive fan on the exterior fixings myself also, looks more like a dotty border, lol. But the customer loves it and its fitted into his budget perfectly. What is the cheapest way to fix then without the obvious exterior screws. I guess an ali frame??

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    November 24, 2007 at 2:26 pm

    i have used ally frame before, i usually have it cut to size by the supplier, though you can buy long lengths, 6.1m i think, fairly reasonably,

    the other option is a plastic moulded ‘stock frame’ i think it’s called, comes in 2.6m lengths and a variety of colours, fix the fascia with c/sunk screws and then this stuff sticks on with a very strong d/sided tape.

    the other advantage of dibond is the gloss colours, and rigidity of the board, you need less fixings, maybe one every 500mm, if i do use visible fixings, i usually pop into a car spares place and pick up the little touch up paint brushes, find the closest match to the vinyl or panel the screw is in, and paint the top, it hides very well. you do end up sometimes buying several colours that only do one screw, but the stuff lasts ages, i’ve also used those paints for hiding a scratch on a completed panel, worked great!

    give sign trade supplies a call, they’re in maidstone, i don’t have their number to hand right now, but they’re in the book. pretty helpful, and you can order up til around 10am on your delivery day, they come my way a couple of times a week, so i imagine you’d be on the same delivery route. they can courier too if you’re desperate for something,

    Hugh

  • Peter Dee

    Member
    November 24, 2007 at 2:55 pm

    On this job I might have been inclined to leave a white border giving a frame effect so that the white fixings aren’t so apparent.
    Similar to Hugh’s advice, countersink the screws and cut some circles of the same colour vinyl about 15mm dia and stick them over the top.

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