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  • Secondhand CADET Printer

    Posted by Michael Winfield on October 11, 2011 at 11:54 am

    I’ve been offered a secondhand CADET printer (same as the Roland SP-540v VersaCAMM) for £5,000, is this a good price or not? the machine is 4/5 years old.

    I have no idea on second prices of machines, and don’t really have any contacts within the sign industry to ask for advise.

    Andrew Martin replied 12 years, 6 months ago 11 Members · 22 Replies
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  • Derek Heron

    Member
    October 11, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    my advice get an engineer to check it out or ask who they use if its under any warranty
    its a big purchase and could cost a lot more if its on its last legs or needs heads etc ask its service history any new parts fitted general condition
    it might look nice and clean but been hammered.

    derek

  • Michael Winfield

    Member
    October 11, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    Thanks Derek!

    I know it prints alright and runs fine because i’ve used it myself, he’s only selling it because he’s wanting a bigger one and because its braking down all time.

    but your right it is a big layout for it to brake 3 months down the road.

  • Tim Painter

    Member
    October 11, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    Michael maybe you just answered your own question ‘braking down all the time’.

    As Derek says get as much info as you can – and if you can get some of that from the service co then all the better.

  • Michael Winfield

    Member
    October 11, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    oppps sorry i missed a word there!

    it should of said "he’s only selling it because he’s wanting a bigger one and not because its braking down all time."
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  • Stafford Cox

    Member
    October 12, 2011 at 10:16 am

    Hi Michael.

    As already suggested, it would be best to get an engineer to check it over before committing to anything. Being hammered is not necessarily a bad thing as these printers love to be run and hate sitting still as the ink will dry out in the heads and pipework if it’s left for long periods of time. Having said that, the motors may be noisy if it’s been run 24/7 for a long time.

    Do you have any information on where it is in the country or where it’s come from etc? Maybe some of the freelance guys on here have seen it or know of it?

    Stafford

  • Michael Winfield

    Member
    October 12, 2011 at 10:41 am

    i know where the printer is, i use the guy that owns it all the time for my printing work. I’ve used the machine myself when he’s been busy, and to me it seems fine.

    I work for a builder merchant full time doing all there internal signage and marketing and use the Roland version of the machine, and it seems to run just as well as the Roland.

    Main thing i was worrying about was the value he set for the machine, we was talking machines and he said he wanted to go bigger and said if i gave him 5k i could have his old one. I just don’t know if its worth 5k.

  • Stafford Cox

    Member
    October 12, 2011 at 11:00 am

    Well it seems a little high to me, unless it’s in immaculate condition. I believe you can buy them new for about £8k and that will come with a warranty which is worth approx £1-2k a year (estimated), a full set of inks, installation, training and anything else you can haggle into the deal.

    This is all off the top of my head so don’t take it as official but that’s the way I would calculate it’s worth.

    Stafford

  • David Rogers

    Member
    October 12, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    A new cadet 540 for £8k…where from?

  • Stafford Cox

    Member
    October 12, 2011 at 4:36 pm
    quote DavidRogers:

    A new cadet 540 for £8k…where from?

    Sorry, my bad. That was supposed to be £9k 🙂

    http://www.solventprinter.co.uk/solvent … _cadet.php

    I assume we’re talking about the same printer?

  • Jason Bagladi

    Member
    October 12, 2011 at 4:48 pm
    quote Stafford Cox:

    quote DavidRogers:

    A new cadet 540 for £8k…where from?

    Sorry, my bad. That was supposed to be £9k 🙂

    http://www.solventprinter.co.uk/solvent … _cadet.php

    I assume we’re talking about the same printer?

    I would think that was for the 30" Cadet

  • Stafford Cox

    Member
    October 12, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    Ah, OK. That does make the price a bit sweeter in that case.

  • David Rogers

    Member
    October 12, 2011 at 9:09 pm
    quote Stafford Cox:

    quote DavidRogers:

    A new cadet 540 for £8k…where from?

    Sorry, my bad. That was supposed to be £9k 🙂

    http://www.solventprinter.co.uk/solvent … _cadet.php

    I assume we’re talking about the same printer?

    that £9k is for the 750mm version…ie – the mini one that’s pointless.

    a 54" (‘540’ that takes 1370mm material) is normally significantly more.

  • Michael Winfield

    Member
    October 13, 2011 at 7:28 am

    should it worry me that i’ve tried to look at the like posted and the firewall has stopped me saying that the web site is under the Category of illegal or unethical? ha 😀

  • Lorraine Clinch

    Member
    October 13, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    David, I don’t find my 760mm printer ‘pointless’ in the least. In fact, I cannot see the need, in my case, for any larger. Quite apart from the fact that I would not be able to manage the rolls of media.

    Lorraine

  • Gordon Forbes

    Member
    October 13, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    Same as you Lorraine being arrogant if you ask me.

  • David Rogers

    Member
    October 13, 2011 at 5:12 pm
    quote Gordon Forbes:

    Same as you Lorraine being arrogant if you ask me.

    and the arrogance of that is…nobody did….

  • Stafford Cox

    Member
    October 14, 2011 at 8:08 am
    quote DavidRogers:

    quote Stafford Cox:

    quote DavidRogers:

    A new cadet 540 for £8k…where from?

    Sorry, my bad. That was supposed to be £9k 🙂

    http://www.solventprinter.co.uk/solvent … _cadet.php

    I assume we’re talking about the same printer?

    that £9k is for the 750mm version…ie – the mini one that’s pointless.

    a 54″ (‘540’ that takes 1370mm material) is normally significantly more.

    Yes, you’re right. They are significantly more. It makes the £5k price tag look like quite a bargain. Good job I’m not a salesman really :lol1:

    I agree that the 760mm wide printers are far from pointless. It all depends on your market, budget and space really. Plus, if you have a good RIP, you can tile 24" drops really easily and make the wider stuff up if needs be.

    Stafford

  • David Rogers

    Member
    October 14, 2011 at 9:35 am

    Pointless was maybe a little strong as a generic term for the smaller printers, but as the O.P was looking at a 54" a 30" would likely be ‘completely unsuitable for his needs’ regardless of how cheap it is.

    Horse for courses I suppose, It’s an opinion…agree or don’t agree but I don’t appreciate the personal insults on the open forum.

    I also think wasps, golf and arguing on the internet are pointless…but somebody will be sure to champion those too.

  • David Rowland

    Member
    October 14, 2011 at 9:40 am

    i thought the mimaki small printer was phased out? due to lack of demand

    Having worked with a 760mm wide printer and 1600mm, both of which Stafford’s seen 😉 . To make a 1mtr wide banner is useful.

    However we all know how popular the small Roland versacams are

    regards the topic….. £8K for second hand solvent printer…. no way… might consider it nearer £2-4K, but this is whats bringing the price of banner printing down, more and more people being able to afford a printer.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    October 14, 2011 at 10:06 am

    I actually prefer the 760mm width for the same reason as Lorraine gave (I would struggle to lift a 50m roll of wider vinyl) but agree with Dave that Golf is completely pointless 😕

  • David Rowland

    Member
    October 14, 2011 at 10:09 am

    i complain about lifting 1.6 and 2mtr wide lol… any less is a dream but us sign makers are tough people, hello?

  • Andrew Martin

    Member
    October 14, 2011 at 10:18 am

    As most of my work is in printing banners, i have to say that the wider printer is the most useful in my opinion.
    For me 50m rolls is ok in smaller widths, anything wider than 110cm its a 30m roll on my JV3 160… but am talking about pvc media.

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