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Scammers selling solvent printers.
Just wanted to warn everyone about a scam on ebay, craigslist and perhaps other websites offering a Uniform Grenadier G2 (Roland XC 540) for sale. The seller lives in the London area and is offering this machine for either £4600 or £3300 – a bargain. They seemed clued up and knowledgeable to a degree about the printer’s spec and applications.
The catch is you can’t see the printer, it’s based in Shetland and they send it to you, even if you live close-ish (like we do), there’s no chance to see or collect the item. The police confirmed this as a scam – they’ve seen the exact same adverts listed months ago, offering all sorts of plant hire/machinery. They also hijack other people’s genuine ebay accounts and then re-list the items and their descriptions. They’ll send you lots of photos of the printer, but no phone number is given out and all they ask for is a BACS transfer to secure a deposit but that’s the last you’ll hear from them.
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Advertiser makes adver for roland 300 with computer and rip 2500 euro pay money to vt logistics machine will be delivered withinin 48hrs if you offer to collect and pay or pay by paypal suddenly the ad disappears seen ad 3 times 1 on ebay.fr and second lebocoin.fr
If it look to good to be true it normally is
Take care
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eBay is a haven for crooks.
There are many examples of seemingly good equipment located at the extremities of the UK!!
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Probably the same lot that were selling roland machines about a year or so ago, different model then but same sort of thing, I was offered it as a second chance option as winning bidder had pulled out but something didn’t seem right so didn’t go ahead & a few days latter got a message from ebay warning me not to buy.
They were somewhere in London as well & the machine was in Inverness or somewhere like that. -
Im just thinking out loud here……
You guys live on a relatively tiny island… If you have to look at something, go and look….
Its not like where i live, where "extremities" of the country may involve (depending on where you live) a drive of up to 2000km, each way. Sometimes on gravel roads……
PS – I NEVER buy without meeting the seller, with the goods, cash in hand. We have become so "spoiled" by the virtual world we live in, that we forgot how things are supposed to be done, ie Viz-A-Viz
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Its not just ebay, Gumtree is rife with them as is a load of other advertising booklets/websites
That old saying
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Stephen is right..
I was buying a Landrover a year or so ago and ‘Gumtree’ was full of these kind of ad’s.
The ones to good to be true were in the tip of Scotland with no phone signal etc etc.Incredible how they get away with it 😕
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i know things maybe tight and saving is always a bonus. but i would never think of buying something like a "digital printer" from joe bloggs on eBay.
its one thing trying to move into this market and worrying if your sales will cover your purchase, but to also run the risk of a dodgy machine purchase or even faulty printer. its just not worth it.
nothing wrong in buying a used machine, but this is your business your income, buy via a proper supplier that can advise on how to run it and after sales on parts etc. -
Wouldn’t entirely agree Rob.
We bought out machine from a print company in Glasgow via ebay who were upgrading. (130mile round trip)
OK, made contact, checked out the company online, called & emailed. Then went through saw it running in the premises (along with their other 3/4 machines).
Struck a deal and left a reasonable deposit in person.
Guy delivered it later that week at his own cost (hired LWB van) and threw in loads of extras such as 5/6 litres ink & media, Colorgate RIP software, PC & monitor.
Stayed for the afternoon to give some training and was at the end of the phone in the following weeks when we had some minor issues.
Would I have paid for it all remotely without seeing it, even if the price was too good to be true – never, that’s for idiots…ebay is a sales forum, no better or worse than a classified ad in a paper.
Dave
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Hi Dave
Yes I see where you are coming from mate and I in no way think that there aren’t millions of successful transactions going through the website every week.
I have successfully purchased new and used products from eBay myself.But when it comes to something like a printer for my business, I would still definitely NOT go this route. Granted you have and it’s possibly paid off, but regardless. It’s still a gamble.
You are fortunate to find one pretty much local and from an existing business. So you have some form of security, but as the topic title is pointing out, it’s not just poor quality machines being sold. There are folk out there looking to take your money and run, so to speak.
At the end of the day many folk have and are happy like you, but not for me.
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I have to disagree with you as well Rob.
Where a printer is being sold is irrelevant….there are plenty of respected people on here who have both bought and sold equipment including printers on Ebay….it is always a case of ‘buyer beware’.
No difference from going to an normal auction and buying something……you need to buy at a price that makes the extra risk and lack of guarantee acceptable…….that is why dealers buy from auctions……because there is a profit margin when you take the item and sell retail to an end user.
Buying from auction is not for everyone…….but is certainly a way to keep cost as low as possible.
Even top of the range printers bought new from distributors can have problems.
john
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I’m actually based in Shetland and was phoned a couple of weeks ago by someone who’d fallen for one of those eBay ads – and who’d actually put down some money! The machine was ostensibly located in Unst, the most northerly of the Shetland Islands and – which I believe is the reason for choosing it – Britain’s least accessible locality… of course, a pure scam, as it turned out.
Anyhow, he called again the other day about a more recent offer of an AGFA Anapurna for sale on eBay (it’s still listed as of today) – and once again it was on the island of Unst! I suggested to him that he try to arrange a viewing with the supposed seller (with myself willing to carry it out) – and watch them try to squirm out of it….
If anyone sees any more of these supposed Shetland-located printers, feel free to drop me a message through this forum.
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quote MikeGrant:I’m actually based in Shetland and was phoned a couple of weeks ago by someone who’d fallen for one of those eBay ads – and who’d actually put down some money! The machine was ostensibly located in Unst, the most northerly of the Shetland Islands and – which I believe is the reason for choosing it – Britain’s least accessible locality… of course, a pure scam, as it turned out.Anyhow, he called again the other day about a more recent offer of an AGFA Anapurna for sale on eBay (it’s still listed as of today) – and once again it was on the island of Unst! I suggested to him that he try to arrange a viewing with the supposed seller (with myself willing to carry it out) – and watch them try to squirm out of it….
If anyone sees any more of these supposed Shetland-located printers, feel free to drop me a message through this forum.
Anyone that bought that would be mad,
Seller Name: aDEADend1 with Zero feedback, It definetly would be a Dead End!!! 😀
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