Roland Versacamm with Colorip software PLEASE HELP

[Phill Fenton]

The only suggestion I can come up with is to make sure your vinyl is loaded "squarely" in the machine. If it’s coming up with the error message when it reaches the 3rd crop mark then presumably this is the crop mark that is not being seen. One explanation for this would be that the vinyl is running off. Try running the vinyl forward and back in the machine and see if the distance from the edge of the vinyl to the rollers is changing which would indicate the vinyl is not "square" in the machine

I have only ever had a problem getting the 2nd crop mark to be recognised which is caused by the vinyl being loaded slightly to far forward or to far behind the exact centre of the first cropmark

[Johnnyval]

Thanks Phil!
Everything does look square to me, It scans the first circle and rectangle, then moves to the left and scans the second "then" travels to the back of the job to the 3rd mark and scans that too then its stops giving me the error message detailed in my previous post. This is really frustrating as i have printed and laminated about 25 metre square jobs but darent cut them.
customer is getting on my case a bit too.
Thanks Phil
Johnny

[Phill Fenton]

Are you using the correct cut file to match the print file you are now cutting? The decals may all be similar, but if you have created seperate cut files for each print it could be that files are not similar enough to work properly. Hopefully you’ve annotated each print file to ensure you match each print to the cutting file that was created for that specific print

[Rodney Gold]

Check that you have enough vinyl at the end of the piece so it doesnt uncover the back "material out" eye on the machine when it rolls forward to the 3rd cropmark, You can put a piece of masking tape over the eye if its being uncovered. Always leave about 30cm of matereial in front of and behind the printed crop marks.

[MartinDenton]

as Rodney said, it is almost certainly insufficient vinyl at the end of the piece which is causing this, you can get around it by sticking an extra piece of vinyl on your work piece to solve this but you do need that 300 mm

[Chris Wool]

in colour rip under media options you can set the space after print normally set at 10 mm but if doing a lot of sheets this can be increased to save you feeding the vinyl before the cross cutting.

lost count of the no of times i have cut it off with out the extra material

chris

[Johnnyval]

Thanks to all of you i am trying all these different things now!
I will let you know how i get on but gonna be here till midnight at this rate!!!!

[Johnnyval]

😥 😥 😳 It is still stopping on the third mark and i have about 2ft of material after the job so there is plenty there i think?
I have tried changing my media options too but! all these jobs were printed on a run where this was set to 10.
Thanks everyone i will just keep trying.

[Jennifer Metituk]

Hi there

We have had this problem and it seemed to be intermittent which indicated operator error.
However we soon discovered that the Com Ribbon to the head that the sensor is in was acting up and needed to be replaced.

The part was 75 (CDN) my husband replaced it and we were up and running in 1.5 hours.

We knew it was the ribbon because first it was getting worse, eventually it stopped recognising the width of material etc.

We chased the problem for about 2 months…

Maybe call your sales / tech guy and see if they have any tests they can do to detect that.

Good Luck

[Johnnyval]

Hi!
Thanks for that i have already asked my rep to get me a new ribbon. Hopefully it will be with me tonight!
I appreciate your help on this and i will let you know how i get on.
Regards
johnny

[Johnnyval]

👿 Still after replacing the ribbon it still only scans 3 marks then stops.
This though only happens on laminated material and not unlaminated.
Trouble is that the work i need out is laminated *drink*

[Jennifer Metituk]

Have you checked the eye? could be dirty, check underneath there for interference. Might Be something on the eye.

If not I think there is a setting for increasing the sensitivity of the eye. Maybe try that?

I will pass it by my husband.

Did you recalibrate and reset everything after putting the ribbon in?

j

[Johnnyval]

Reset everything, cleaned the eye but still stoppind at the usual place. 👿

[Phill Fenton]

Just a thought – try removing the laminate from the area where the markers are. "Clear" may look "clear" to the naked eye – but may not be clear in the wavelengths seen by the machines optical sensor

[Johnnyval]

took laminate off marks!
Turned lights off!
Have a metre of vinyl at end of roll and still it stops on third point.
It isnt actually reaching the 3rd point to read it, It stops 2" short.
Thanks all

[Jennifer Metituk]

Ok-

Maybe try this

Re-Rip the file – same profile same spacing etc (hopefully you used the machine default)
Send the file to print
Allow it to completely print the first 2 crop marks, cancel it on the machine only.
Allow the computer to send the whole file
Then look in the Cut Que and you will have a new version of the same file.
Try and cut it from there

this only works if you have let the machine defaults for spacing etc. If you manually moved any of the jobs it wont work. If you specified the spacing between copies it needs to be the same.

Sorry we are scraping the bottom of the barrel here but it really sounds like it is a file issue, Maybe it was corrupted?
Jen