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  • Roland Versacamm VS Opinions and thoughts?

    Posted by Steve Underhill on January 14, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    Does anyone own one of these machines?

    If so what are they like in your experience, are they worth the money?
    how do they perform with regards to ink usage, blocking nozzles, ease of use, maintenance etc.

    I have a guy who might want to buy one and put it into my office, as a sort of buy in into the business, and then be a silent partner that helps out as well.
    Were thinking of the 54" version as the small one is too small and the bigger one too expensive so middle is the best option.

    any thoughts appreciated

    Chris Wool replied 12 years, 3 months ago 7 Members · 14 Replies
  • 14 Replies
  • Chris Wool

    Member
    January 14, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    where have you been then. nice to see you again.

    as you are local ish ought to say they are a load of expensive rubbish extravagant on ink etc, 😉

    yes i have one with WT & Metallic

  • Steve Underhill

    Member
    January 14, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    Can I have yours then seeing as you dont like it?

    And Ive been about mate just not been doing much sign work, but seeing as I am not forking out for it It might be not such a bad option eh?

  • Steve Underhill

    Member
    January 15, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    any other opinions?

  • Robert Walker

    Member
    January 15, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    Hi Steve

    I Have a VS640 and i think its fantastic, i use to run an XC540 and the quality on the VS is much better and virtually no banding, i went for the 6 col option as i’d heard bad things about the metallics with the speed of print and cost.

    i have a few problems with drying on certain media but its nothing a fan doesnt sort, if they had the same fan and dryers as the XC units it would be perfect

    Robert

  • Nigel Pugh

    Member
    January 15, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    Steve the VS is a great printer and from most customers I have supplied the 2 x cmyk or cmykLcLm is the set up most prefer.

    Nigel

  • Neil Fox

    Member
    January 15, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    Steve,

    I have had a VS 540 since November 2010. Excellent machine. Previously had an SP540V for 6 years.

    The VS is a superb machine, I run it in 4 colours, works fine and print speeds are excellent. Currently print 6 meter banners in about 19 minutes.

    Regarding maintenance, it is virtually maintenance free. I have not as yet had any blocked nozzles.

    Only had one issue in just over a year, which was a problem finding the registration marks for Print / Laminate & Cut jobs. Seems to be working OK at the moment after a few visits by Roland engineers.

    People have expressed reservations about the White / Metallic option. I personally don’t have a call for that type of work, so my best option was the 4 colour. All in all, this is an excellent machine, reliable and simple to maintain. If you are getting this type of machine, the VS is the one to go for in my book.

    Neil

  • Steve Underhill

    Member
    January 16, 2012 at 10:39 pm

    Thanks everyone, food for thought
    will let you know

  • David Rowland

    Member
    January 16, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    um… i tested it @ roland… dual cmyk machine is fast but we found printing on 6 col normal vinyl modes to be slow as a snail compared to the competiton.

    It does however have the latests Epson Head(s).

    I have added a Latex and almost 100% love it.

  • Neil Fox

    Member
    January 19, 2012 at 9:20 am

    Dave,

    I know this is taking the thread off at a tangent, how have you found the running costs of the latex machine, particularly the power consumption?

    Neil

  • Andrew Edwards

    Member
    January 23, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    Hi

    Hopefully I can help with power consumption data as it is relatively unchanging in comparison to ink costs etc.

    The L26500 uses 2.7KW/h during production. (the maximum possible is 4.8KW/h but this is only used to get the heaters up to temperature first thing from cold – not in production)

    To turn this into an actual costing you need to know how fast you print and what you are charged for electricity.

    e.g. if you pay 11p per KW/h then an hour of printing at 2.7KW/h will cost you around 30p.

    For this Latex printer you will be normally printing at 9 sqm/h so you spread this 30p cost across all 9 sqm of print which gives you a grand total of about 3.3pence psqm.

    As the Latex ink is cured in the printer there is no need for additional front heaters that usually use 2.5KW/h on their own. Therefore this will be the ongoing total power consumption figure for the printer during production.

    Also if you print at a lower production speed then your printer will need to stay on longer to finish the same job and thus use more electricity.

    The above figures also apply to the 60" L25500.

    Andrew

  • Neil Fox

    Member
    January 25, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    Andrew,

    Thanks for the breakdown, very helpful.

    Neil

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    January 25, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    is that running from a 13amp standard plug

    sorry Steve they may get back on topic one day

  • Andrew Edwards

    Member
    January 28, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    No these printers need 15Amps during that warm up from cold – thus it goes just above the 13Amp socket rating and thus needs a couple of 16Amp wall sockets (blue three round-pin type)

    It normally takes an our or so of an electricians time so you should figure this in to your install costs.

    Sorry again re original topic!

    Andrew

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    January 29, 2012 at 1:07 am

    just an observation never heard anybody mention this (quick guess £100 extra) nor did any sales person i spoke to.

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