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  • Roland cleaning liquid questions

    Posted by Jean Oakley on February 20, 2024 at 11:02 am

    Hi all, im soon going to run out of the cleaning liquid i use for cleaning the heads in my Roland VP300 printer. I do have two small cartridges of cleaning liquid which came with the printer years ago and have never been used as far as im aware (possibly when it was set up?). My question is could i break into one of the cartridges and used the fluid, is it the same stuff? Only asking as it seems daft to pay for a 500ml bottle when i have these lying around. Another question is what exactly is the cleaning liquid? Is it just Isopropyl alcohol or similar?

    Robert Lambie replied 1 month, 1 week ago 7 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Steven Taylor

    Member
    February 20, 2024 at 12:01 pm

    Hi Jean

    With regards to what the cleaning liquid is, it’s definitely not IPA but a solvent cleaner I’m sure I read somewhere to never use Isopropyl alcohol on the printhead or capping station as it will damage the head and dry out the rubbers.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    February 20, 2024 at 12:55 pm

    Yes the cleaning fluid in the cartridges is the same stuff. It’s the solvent used in the inks but without the pigments added

  • Jean Oakley

    Member
    February 20, 2024 at 2:43 pm

    Thanks both, yes I did think IPA might be a bit harsh but was worth asking as I couldn’t find the spec for the liquid anywhere.

    Of course additional question now…….

    Does anyone have any idea how to open the cartridge without busting the bag containing the liquid?

    I’ve looked online but only found clips for small printersπŸ€”

  • John Thomson

    Member
    February 20, 2024 at 3:51 pm

    I use Eco Solvent ink flush when I clean or soak heads ( 5 litres was Β£60.00 and will probably outlast me )

    Ink splashes and wipers get cleaned with thinners.

    John

  • Robert Lambie

    Administrator
    February 20, 2024 at 10:22 pm

    I have never really given this much thought, these days, I have always just assumed the Solvent Ink cleaner was just Ink thinner!
    Going back to the 90’s I often worked on truck curtain siders as well as banners using Sericol Ink and Sericol Ink Thinner. I applied stencil vinyl to the truck curtain and either rolled it on or sprayed the curtain or banner with Sericol solvent ink. Using the ink, meant the lettering or graphics would not flake or chip due to how flexible the solvent ink was but also how aggressive the chemical was to bite into the surface of the truck curtain or banner material.

    The ink came in a can which was thick like soft butter, but you mixed it with the thinner until it reached the desired liquid consistency for Rolling our spraying from a gun.

    This is the same type of ink that Screenprinting is done with.

    Long story short, my assumption at the time was that the watery ink in the carts of the likes of the Roland Versacamm, at the time, was just some form of solvent ink watered down with thinner to allow it to be fine and pure enough to be jetted from printheads.

    Please note: I am certainly not, suggesting filling your cart with ink thinner or anything else for that matter. I am just sharing my thoughts after reading your post. πŸ™‚πŸ‘

    P.s.
    Sericol is just one of many Ink brands. I am only using that as a reference because that was what I often used back in the day, before switching to Apolo Ink.

  • Robert Lambie

    Administrator
    February 20, 2024 at 11:23 pm

    Anyway, back to your question… 🀣

    It has been so long since we had our Roland machines. is there not a syringe with a pin on the end, rather than a needle as such? You could just push that into the hole that the machine pin penetrates, on the cart, and pull back on the syringe to extract the fluid.

    Failing that, just smash it with a hammer. 🀠 joking πŸ˜‰

  • David Stevenson

    Member
    February 20, 2024 at 11:56 pm

    Hi Jean, from memory those cartridges are hinged and open up quite easy after running a small knife round the seam at the edge through the sticker. It’s just a matter then of prying it open then to get to the bag inside. Snip a corner off it and pour it into your old bottle. Job done πŸ™‚

  • David Wilde

    Member
    February 21, 2024 at 1:27 pm

    Thanks Rob, that’s a really good idea!

    We got rid of the last of our screenprint apparatus last year but still have a fair few half empty tins of Apolo Inks knocking around. I’m going to take your advice, thin them down and pour them in our Roland! Should save a pretty penny….

    • Robert Lambie

      Administrator
      February 21, 2024 at 2:46 pm

      Also, you could buy some glitter from HobbyCraft, tip that into the cart along with the apolo Ink and give it a good shake.
      Voila, you now have Metallic Solvent Ink! 😎

      • David Wilde

        Member
        March 2, 2024 at 7:01 pm

        This didn’t work, avoid at all costs. Spent most of the week scrubbing the print heads clean whilst looking a little bit like Elton John….

        • Robert Lambie

          Administrator
          March 4, 2024 at 3:21 am

          🀣…

          I just know someone somewhere is reading this, then running to their kid’s room to grab their glitter and give it a try!

          🀠🀣

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