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Rod Ward Site BoardPosted by Tim Shaw on September 26, 2002 at 4:10 pmPhill Fenton replied 20 years, 6 months ago 5 Members · 15 Replies
Robert Lambie Robert LambieMemberSeptember 26, 2002 at 7:04 pm
very smart tim!
i like the script “and sons”
the whole thing works well… what are you going to print the bricks and trowel with?
i would maybe make the “&” symbol in light green like the “contact”
breaks the phone numbers apart…
lovely sign none the less 😉
eddie cotterMemberSeptember 26, 2002 at 7:56 pm
lovely design work, great colours, well done tim!!!eddie
Martin PearsonMemberSeptember 26, 2002 at 10:48 pm
Nice one Tim, what sort of size is it ?
Will you just print it all for speed ? what are you going to mount it on ?
So many questions !!!!!
Tim ShawMemberSeptember 27, 2002 at 8:57 am
It will be 3′ wide all cut vinyl. We will be printing the bricks and trowel on a gerber edge.
Mounting on 8mm Foamex or piece of dibond if we have a piece kicking about, its that be more durable than Foamex, especially if its going to thrown around a builders van.
Martin PearsonMemberSeptember 28, 2002 at 12:53 am
Tim I realise that you are doing this as a favour for a mate, but if you had been asked to do this for a paying customer what sort of money would you have charged ?
just curious !!
Tim ShawMemberSeptember 30, 2002 at 5:50 pm
Martin, i probably would’nt have produced a design such as this without making sure I had some idea of customer budget.
Off the top of my head when I have to give price, my rule of thumb for a job about this size is £12.
1m x £12 x no off colours + 1 ( for board if foamex)
therefore 1 x £12 x 5= £60 plus labour 1.5 hours total £82.50
if the board size had been 2000m
price = 2 x £12 x 5 + labour = £145.
Hope this makes sense.
Phill FentonMemberSeptember 30, 2002 at 6:37 pm
You’ve lost me completely (?)
Lovely sign though 😀
Robert Lambie Robert LambieMemberSeptember 30, 2002 at 7:28 pm
me too 😕
Tim ShawMemberSeptember 30, 2002 at 8:32 pm
Sorry guys, let me try again.
The panel size is 1m x .8m.
I then times the longest measurement by £12. (1m x £12)
I then times this figure by the number of colours of vinyl used in the sign, in this case 4 ( 2 greens, black and white)
Add 1 for the foamex panel giving a total of 5.
5x £12 plus any labour cost gives the total sign panel price.
Works very quickly in practice.
There, I hope it makes senses this time.
Robert Lambie Robert LambieMemberSeptember 30, 2002 at 8:39 pm
ah i understand tim.. 😀
surely you dont pay the same for foamex as you do vinyl though 😕
Tim ShawMemberSeptember 30, 2002 at 8:47 pm
We get a sheet of 5mm for £25, 8’x4′ Foamalux
£50 if you double up. Therefore a third of a sheet is charged at £17, cost price is £8.
Robert Lambie Robert LambieMemberSeptember 30, 2002 at 9:01 pm
ok tim no worries mate.. i was just wondering because you said..quote :Therefore a third of a sheet is charged at £17, cost price is £8.
but you charged £12 for the foamex.. i guess at the end of the day. if you are happy with what you charge then thats the main thing 😉
Phill FentonMemberSeptember 30, 2002 at 10:11 pm
Does that mean you would charge the same for a sign 1m x 1m as a sign 1m x 500mm (both with the same no. of colours)?
Surely this method throws up a number of inconsistencies? (Rob – can we get a spell check please)
How did you arrive at this method for pricing work?
I hope you don’t mind my asking – I think it’s an interesting subject – and I am very interested to hear how others go about pricing their work 😀
(I use a spreadsheet to price mine – this is very quick and easy – but doesn’t take into account very well the degree of difficulty in making a sign. I don’t think there’s a perfect way to price signs, many methods are very cumbersome – so any method that’s quick and easy has it’s own advantages). Maybe we should open a forum on pricing work?
Tim ShawMemberOctober 1, 2002 at 10:11 am
i know what you are saying Martin, I have been looking at this problem myself for quite a long time.
Like I said this method is so I can give a price quickly, If I was making
10 or so the same, then I would look at the prices a lot closer.
These prices are an example remember. As Rob says I would only charge
£12 for the board which cost £8 but the small amout of light green on the job offsets the costs a little.
I have tried using a spreadsheet before but this as its own problems.
Square area charging works to a point, but what do you do when the panel size goes over the half way mark on an 8×4 sheet. Say the sign is 2’6″ x 4’6″ ( 11.25 sq feet with 20.75 sg ft wasted) !!!!!
Do you charge per sq/foot now or do you charge for the full sheet.
If I charge by the running metre on the longest side, I am including waste.
If the sign is very complex just increase the £12 figure accordingly.
You use a spreadsheet , what would you be charging ?
Do you charge for
Phill FentonMemberOctober 1, 2002 at 11:19 am
For a sign 1000mm x 800mm x 5mm PVC sign – 4 colours and an area printed (say 250mm x 250mm thermal transfer print). I would have priced this at 97 pounds + VAT.
I might also add on a precentage increase to this figure as it’s a very good design – and quite a complex sign to put together.
I usually disregard materials wasted as these offcuts always get used eventually for something.