Rod Ward Site Board

[Robert Lambie]

very smart tim!
i like the script “and sons”
the whole thing works well… what are you going to print the bricks and trowel with?

i would maybe make the “&” symbol in light green like the “contact”
breaks the phone numbers apart…

lovely sign none the less 😉

[eddie cotter]

lovely design work, great colours, well done tim!!!eddie

[Martin Pearson]

Nice one Tim, what sort of size is it ?
Will you just print it all for speed ? what are you going to mount it on ?

So many questions !!!!!

[Tim Shaw]

It will be 3′ wide all cut vinyl. We will be printing the bricks and trowel on a gerber edge.

Mounting on 8mm Foamex or piece of dibond if we have a piece kicking about, its that be more durable than Foamex, especially if its going to thrown around a builders van.

[Martin Pearson]

Tim I realise that you are doing this as a favour for a mate, but if you had been asked to do this for a paying customer what sort of money would you have charged ?
just curious !!

[Tim Shaw]

Martin, i probably would’nt have produced a design such as this without making sure I had some idea of customer budget.

Off the top of my head when I have to give price, my rule of thumb for a job about this size is £12.

1m x £12 x no off colours + 1 ( for board if foamex)

therefore 1 x £12 x 5= £60 plus labour 1.5 hours total £82.50

if the board size had been 2000m

price = 2 x £12 x 5 + labour = £145.

Hope this makes sense.

[Phill Fenton]

You’ve lost me completely (?)

Lovely sign though 😀

[Robert Lambie]

me too 😕

[Tim Shaw]

Sorry guys, let me try again.

The panel size is 1m x .8m.

I then times the longest measurement by £12. (1m x £12)

I then times this figure by the number of colours of vinyl used in the sign, in this case 4 ( 2 greens, black and white)

Add 1 for the foamex panel giving a total of 5.

5x £12 plus any labour cost gives the total sign panel price.

Works very quickly in practice.

There, I hope it makes senses this time.

[Robert Lambie]

ah i understand tim.. 😀
surely you dont pay the same for foamex as you do vinyl though 😕

[Tim Shaw]

We get a sheet of 5mm for £25, 8’x4′ Foamalux

£50 if you double up. Therefore a third of a sheet is charged at £17, cost price is £8.

[Robert Lambie]

ok tim no worries mate.. i was just wondering because you said..

quote :

Therefore a third of a sheet is charged at £17, cost price is £8.

but you charged £12 for the foamex.. i guess at the end of the day. if you are happy with what you charge then thats the main thing 😉

[Phill Fenton]

Does that mean you would charge the same for a sign 1m x 1m as a sign 1m x 500mm (both with the same no. of colours)?

Surely this method throws up a number of inconsistencies? (Rob – can we get a spell check please)

How did you arrive at this method for pricing work?

I hope you don’t mind my asking – I think it’s an interesting subject – and I am very interested to hear how others go about pricing their work 😀

(I use a spreadsheet to price mine – this is very quick and easy – but doesn’t take into account very well the degree of difficulty in making a sign. I don’t think there’s a perfect way to price signs, many methods are very cumbersome – so any method that’s quick and easy has it’s own advantages). Maybe we should open a forum on pricing work?

[Tim Shaw]

i know what you are saying Martin, I have been looking at this problem myself for quite a long time.

Like I said this method is so I can give a price quickly, If I was making
10 or so the same, then I would look at the prices a lot closer.

These prices are an example remember. As Rob says I would only charge
£12 for the board which cost £8 but the small amout of light green on the job offsets the costs a little.

I have tried using a spreadsheet before but this as its own problems.

Square area charging works to a point, but what do you do when the panel size goes over the half way mark on an 8×4 sheet. Say the sign is 2’6″ x 4’6″ ( 11.25 sq feet with 20.75 sg ft wasted) !!!!!

Do you charge per sq/foot now or do you charge for the full sheet.

If I charge by the running metre on the longest side, I am including waste.

If the sign is very complex just increase the £12 figure accordingly.

You use a spreadsheet , what would you be charging ?

Do you charge for

[Phill Fenton]

For a sign 1000mm x 800mm x 5mm PVC sign – 4 colours and an area printed (say 250mm x 250mm thermal transfer print). I would have priced this at 97 pounds + VAT.

I might also add on a precentage increase to this figure as it’s a very good design – and quite a complex sign to put together.

I usually disregard materials wasted as these offcuts always get used eventually for something.