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  • Nicola McIntosh

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    November 5, 2005 at 11:36 pm

    ooo 😮 thats one of the reasons i dont fly 😕 i have to get really taken over with alcohol before i fly….not good practice i know, but eases my mind while in the air…..but feel rotten when i land 🙄

    nik

  • Paul Meadows

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    November 5, 2005 at 11:39 pm

    Sure that top ones not the lav being flushed?

  • Shane Drew

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    November 5, 2005 at 11:41 pm
    quote Nicola McIntosh:

    ooo 😮 thats one of the reasons i dont fly 😕 i have to get really taken over with alcohol before i fly….not good practice i know, but eases my mind while in the air…..but feel rotten when i land 🙄

    nik

    we used to fly a lot, but since 911, I can’t get my 10yo in to a plane without drugging him, which I don’t like to do of course. Poor kid is so convinced that we are going to be hijacked and flown into a building, he makes himself physically sick just discussing it.

    He has a better imagination than me, 😮 . We have to really watch what is on the telly tho, he takes everything to heart.

  • Nicola McIntosh

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    November 5, 2005 at 11:52 pm
    quote Shane Drew:

    quote Nicola McIntosh:

    ooo 😮 thats one of the reasons i dont fly 😕 i have to get really taken over with alcohol before i fly….not good practice i know, but eases my mind while in the air…..but feel rotten when i land 🙄
    nik

    we used to fly a lot, but since 911, I can’t get my 10yo in to a plane without drugging him, which I don’t like to do of course. Poor kid is so convinced that we are going to be hijacked and flown into a building, he makes himself physically sick just discussing it.
    He has a better imagination than me, 😮 . We have to really watch what is on the telly tho, he takes everything to heart.

    i feel for the wee fella….i have not thought about flying from that angle with my kids…as brad has flown on his own since he was small, so he is used to it…lucy is too young for reading the news….but its hard shane trying to keep your kids from the world media….i no doubt will have the same thing when lucy gets older ….. 😕 long gone are the days of going out to play…without the distraction of technology 😕 😉

    nik

  • Shane Drew

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    November 6, 2005 at 12:10 am

    Yeah Nik, kids are so more informed these days with instant TV news beamed around the world as it happens.

    When we were kids, the news was ‘old’ when we finally saw it on TV.

    I must confess tho, when I was a kid, if we were at a restaurant as a family eating a meal, and someone was eating a meal at a table by themselves, by the end of the night I’d be bawling my eyes out, convinced that they must be lonely, or that their partner had died, or no one loved them….

    ….. my son doesn’t stand a chance…. 😮

    My parents still chuckle at my view on life when I was a kid

  • Nicola McIntosh

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    November 6, 2005 at 12:14 am
    quote Shane Drew:

    I must confess tho, when I was a kid, if we were at a restaurant as a family eating a meal, and someone was eating a meal at a table by themselves, by the end of the night I’d be bawling my eyes out, convinced that they must be lonely, or that their partner had died, or no one loved them….

    ….. my son doesn’t stand a chance…. 😮

    My parents still chuckle at my view on life when I was a kid

    and heres me thinking im very sensitive… 😕 your a good one shane 😉

    nik

  • Andrew Boyle

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    November 6, 2005 at 12:21 am

    Shane/Nik

    I use to be an aircraft despatcher / load control at LGW in the 80’s you’re right to be scared

    Cheers

    Andrew

  • Nicola McIntosh

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    November 6, 2005 at 12:35 am
    quote Andrew Boyle:

    Shane/Nik
    I use to be an aircraft despatcher / load control at LGW in the 80’s you’re right to be scared

    ooo…youve got the secrets… 😀 come on tell me before i put my mum back on a plane to spain next weekend… 😮 (not that i want to scare the pants off her) :yikes:

    nik

  • Andrew Boyle

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    November 6, 2005 at 12:40 am

    was 20yrs ago in the days of Air Europe, Dan Air start of Virgin etc

    changed days….. and it’s still very safe …… will tell you my horror stories some SignUK

  • Shane Drew

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    November 6, 2005 at 12:42 am
    quote Andrew Boyle:

    Shane/Nik

    I use to be an aircraft despatcher / load control at LGW in the 80’s you’re right to be scared

    Cheers

    Andrew

    😮 best not let my son read this 😀

  • Nicola McIntosh

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    November 6, 2005 at 12:48 am
    quote Shane Drew:

    😮 best not let my son read this 😀

    oh no i wouldnt 🙁

    flying scares the life out of me..but they still say its safer than driving on the roads 😮

    nik

  • Andrew Boyle

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    November 6, 2005 at 12:56 am

    The relative safety of domestic flying on the major airlines over driving is so strong that the flying will remain safer unless terrorism in the air were to reach – in spite of today’s security measures – almost unthinkable levels.

    http://www.fearofflying.com/research.shtml

  • Nicola McIntosh

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    November 6, 2005 at 1:00 am
    quote Andrew Boyle:

    The relative safety of domestic flying on the major airlines over driving is so strong that the flying will remain safer unless terrorism in the air were to reach – in spite of today’s security measures – almost unthinkable levels.

    http://www.fearofflying.com/research.shtml

    think i’ll leave that reading until tomorrow…..your dashes are outwaying my dots….. 😉

    nik

  • Shane Drew

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    November 6, 2005 at 9:18 am

    On the thought of holiday and flying, not sure this would be a quiet holiday either 😮


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  • Jayne Marsh

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    November 6, 2005 at 9:59 am

    Ive only flown twice and the first time was last year going to America, I was so nervous and on take off I was the most scared Ive ever been in my life. My daughter and her boyfriend were laughing their heads off at me, I felt such a fool, I would fly again but very reluctantly. Coming back we had to take off into a thunderstorm and fly around a tropical storm which was very unnerving, but I discovered that a glass of wine did the trick and I was feeling very mellow as we flew through the tropical storm.

  • Shane Drew

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    November 6, 2005 at 10:18 am

    I don’t think there is anything wrong in being fearful Jayne, the only time fear becomes a problem is if it stops you living a life…. Thats what I tell my son anyway….

    May be easier to go for the wine option 😮 ……

    As I get older I tend to concentrate more on the safety aspects of everything I do. Your daughter and co are still going thru that bullet proof stage in life. Been there done that, I’m entering my fragile stage now… 😛

  • Dave & Rob Lowery

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    November 9, 2005 at 9:50 am

    Flying is perfectly safe, it’s only the landings that sometimes can scare you a little……….


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  • Dave Bruce

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    November 9, 2005 at 10:18 am

    I love it, I think the technology used to get such a heavy machine in the air is just amazing, and the take off always makes me grin, the shear power of these things 😮

    Never think about the safety aspect they are thousands of planes flying all over the world every day, the pilots are far more resonsible than car drivers (generally), yet we jump in to cars without a thought of danger every day.

    Dave
    Happy flying

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    November 9, 2005 at 1:13 pm

    Dave, Jayne will never fly again if she sees that video. 🙄

  • Jayne Marsh

    Member
    November 9, 2005 at 2:15 pm

    Ive seen it 😮
    and Ill have to be very drunk next time I fly *drink*

  • Dave & Rob Lowery

    Member
    November 9, 2005 at 2:38 pm

    I think that was the pilot’s problem 😀

  • Vince Francis

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    November 9, 2005 at 4:53 pm

    There was a doc on not so long ago where they interviewed someone who was employed by the FAA. What they said shocked me. We all hear that flying in really safe, but… its how we read into the stats, and how we are told they are right.

    Mile per mile, yes it is safe, but journey by journey they are not. How many cars are on the road at any one time compaired to planes?

    COMMERCIAL JETS;
    >
    > FOR ONE YEAR:
    >
    > (for a mode of transportation)It’s number of deaths per year DIVIDED
    > BY the number of vehicles in that mode TIMES the avdg number of hours
    > per year each vehicle is in service:
    > AUTO;
    > 54,000 deaths per year (avdg figure for past 10 years)DIVIDED BY
    > 80,000,000 cars in service TIMES (3 hrs per day avdg per car TIMES
    > 365=1095)OR 80 MILLION times 1095= OVER 80 BILLION car hours.
    >
    > 54,000 Divided by 80 BILLION= (A PEWNEY, ONLY) 1 DEATH PER 1,481,000
    > CAR Hours
    >
    > AIRLINES:
    >
    > 200 deaths per year (avdg figure for past 10 years) DIVIDED BY 3000
    > commercial jets in service TIMES (8 hrs avdg flight time per day TIMES
    > 365= 2920) or 3000 times 8 times 365= 8,760,000 jet hours
    >
    > 200 DEATHS divided by 8,760,000= (A WHOPPING) ONE DEATH for only
    > 43,800 airplane hours!
    >
    > Figure it out and you’ll see the car is much safer!

    Airlines dont like having stats shown this way! Not sure i see why lol

    ps I wont fly unless i really have 2!

  • Tim Painter

    Member
    November 9, 2005 at 5:20 pm

    Only good point though Shane when you don’t lock the motor cover down on a plane you can still see, unlike a car………..so maybe a plus point..lol

    OK all you V Wubbleyew drivers I know, there not all in the front……..

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