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Problem with printing on PC60 white ink
We have a Roland PC-60 that we use for printing stickers. We need to use white ink on transparent vinyl. The vinyl that we use now doesn’t work: the stickers look very bad and we can just scrape the ink off with our nails.
Does anyone have a solution for this?
an other problem that we face is that a black/yellow stripe pattern gives not a translucent effect that we need. How can we solve that (print on white vinyl but that is unhandy if the rest needs to be printed on transparent vinyl)
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:'( does no one know an answer or solution?!
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Hi Johan,
It might help to provide more details about the software and materials that you are using. Generally, for the given piece of software, you need to choose the media profile that best matches the media and inks that are loaded into the printer.
Cheers,
Rod
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The ribbons are only good for printing on white vinyl. Printing on clear will only give a good result if you stick it to a white substrate. The ribbons are translucent if you print on clear and stick to a window for example, so you will not get good results. White ribbons are not very "white" in fact they can look very dirty depending on the colour of vinyl printed on.
I hope this helps!
Rod, the PC60 uses ribbons not ink so profiles don’t apply.
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quote Johan Korten:The vinyl that we use now doesn’t work: the stickers look very bad and we can just scrape the ink off with our nails.
That sounds like you are using wax ribbons that are used to print T shirt transfers with.
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Are you using original ribbons or copies? I know on the edge copy ribbons are no way near as good as the originals.
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I just yesterday got a new roll of transparent vinyl. It indeed only seems to work quite well with original Roland Vinyl AND Roland white resin. Of course I use resin and not wax.
My software is FlexiSign Pro (7.6v2). I just use in on Windows (allthough I use Macs and Illustrator for the design part).
The problem is I really need to print it on transparent. But how did LEGO Company do that back when they introduced those trains (was back in 1980-1987) that I try to reprint the stickers for?
At this moment there was only one sticker where the resin did not stick tothe vinyl.
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Hi Johan,
I’m not familiar with the Lego thing, but I would presume these would be mass produced and screen printed. -
quote KARL WILLIAMS:Hi Johan,
I’m not familiar with the Lego thing, but I would presume these would be mass produced and screen printed.Ok, I see, but the thing is, with the other stickers we get better results than LEGO 😉 We hope to also get very good results with white and are on the right track but still can improve (I hope). Is thate a way to prepare the vinyl and coat it afterwards?
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as i understand it the white ribbons were late on in the life of the pc 60 and earlier firmware did not support it very well as different temps are used to print different colours i only ever had good results from the roland ribbon and the last pc 60 firmware as it was all a long time ago i have not any files or numbers for you.
you can lacquer the prints or water slide on pre cut clear vinyl or if you are careful print laminate and cut.
Chris
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quote Chris Wool:as i understand it the white ribbons were late on in the life of the pc 60 and earlier firmware did not support it very well as different temps are used to print different colours i only ever had good results from the roland ribbon and the last pc 60 firmware as it was all a long time ago i have not any files or numbers for you.
you can lacquer the prints or water slide on pre cut clear vinyl or if you are careful print laminate and cut.
Chris
I’ll try to update the printer then, I have the ‘newest’ firmware from the Roland site but it sucks since I need to start in DOS as I understand the manual correctly. Water slides are no option that is ugly.
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quote :Water slides are no option that is ugly.
i ment to say slide on the clear pre cut vinyl using water.
a lot of care while you tranfer the firmware as if its interrupted causes mayhemChris
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quote Chris Wool:quote :Water slides are no option that is ugly.
i ment to say slide on the clear pre cut vinyl using water.
a lot of care while you tranfer the firmware as if its interrupted causes mayhemChris
About the firmware, indeed, I’ll hook it up to the uninterruptable power supply first, but my background is software engineering so I know of the hazards (but thx anyway!).
So but about the water sliding, it is not like water decals but a way to put an other layer over the current layer?? In that case it would be interesting indeed!
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printing twice is another option but only cut on the second print as the cut edge can damage the print head if its over printing a cut.
i presume you are only doing small stuff then a cast clear being thinner is a better option for the clear over finish or spray with a clear lacquer before weeding.chris
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quote Chris Wool:printing twice is another option but only cut on the second print as the cut edge can damage the print head if its over printing a cut.
i presume you are only doing small stuff then a cast clear being thinner is a better option for the clear over finish or spray with a clear lacquer before weeding.chris
I’ll keep that in mind that I first print and then cut. I mainly do small stuff indeed. Max of 5 sheets of a kind. Could you elaborate on that other stuff you say? I’m a software engineer and not really into printing yet. So I still need to learn the jargon I’m afraid 😳
I guess you suggest that I don’t use some kind of coating?! So should I use or not use a clear lacquer spray on top of the white ink?!
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protection of prints depends on what type of life they will be subjected too.
if out doors then a clear vinyl over will help against uv and washing etc.
if being contunually handled then a protection against the grease from fingers is a must.what use are they for.
chris
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quote Chris Wool:protection of prints depends on what type of life they will be subjected too.
if out doors then a clear vinyl over will help against uv and washing etc.
if being contunually handled then a protection against the grease from fingers is a must.what use are they for.
chris
Probably mainly protection against scratching from other parts. B.t.w. the original stickers also fade from scratching, if I have the same quality as LEGO company I’m satisfied already.
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if on to lego bricks etc how about health. little mouths and all that.
chris
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quote Chris Wool:if on to lego bricks etc how about health. little mouths and all that.
chris
Well, It’s mainly for the AFOL (Adult Fans Of LEGO) community and besides that I guess you mean Duplo, since little mouth are not supposed to have LEGO around (choking hazard etc.), so I can’t worry too much about that issues. But on the other hand I notice that some of the ink isn’t very translucent on transparent vinyl. Is there a good solution to improve translucency? Can I e.g. put in the driver or in FlexiSign to go over it twice?
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