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printing illustrator artwork
good morning everyone
a quick question for everyone just to make sure i am not missing something really obvious.
a designer has given me artwork as an illustrator file which is 400mm square, it is just vector artwork with loads of effects as gausian blur a little bit of fade here and there, objects set at different opacity levels, basiclly a designer gone effects made. the size of the inkjet image is for a wall that is 4 metres sq. am i right in saying that the same rules apply for this type of artwork that we use for printing photo images that if the original artwork is the same size as the finished print size then everyone will be happy as larry.
i have resized the artwork both in illustrator and the rip software and got a better print result resizing through the rip but the print was terrible….
the designer in question has told me the he has never had a problem before with his artwork being so small and printed at a much larger scale.
(?) (?) (?)thanks frank…………
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13 Replies
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The problem may be in the gradients/blurs etc, as some inkjets have a problem interpreting them correctly. Not sure because you haven’t said why the print is aweful.
Recently though there was a thread that suggested to get a good print, the vector should be converted to a bitmap and have noise added to it in a package such as Photoshop. This improved certain prints. Maybe thats something you could try?
Cheers, Dewi
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but then we are back to the size issue, the artwork supplied is only 400mm square and the finished size is 4 metres square so converting it to a tif or bitmap we come back to the old chestnut regarding size
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Francopas, what setup are you using? Normally you should be able to scale
vector work to that size without problem, although it can sometimes be
worth creating a much larger document placing the small file in that,
selecting and scaling all the artwork so that it fills the new document.Although I’ve only had to do this when fonts have been created as outlines
at small scale and then been printed from QXPress.Are you sure all the filters are vector filters and not imported PS filters?
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that i don’t know as illustrator is something i am not familiar with.
i rescaled their artwork up to 4 metres and placed a clipping mask 800mm
square and saved it as an eps file, in the resulting print you could see the square pixels which are 3mm square, the fades and so on are just large bands of colour and where there are overlays gaps have appeared between objects. -
mail me the artwork and I’ll see what I can do – Email addy in the PM I’ve sent you.
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This is a blind shot,
im not very familiar with that specs in illustrator but maybe, illustrator is set to rebuilt shadows, fades, … , after opening the file, and probably that’s the reason you are getting only a low resolution print in those parts of the design, if you set illustrator to save those at a specific resolution in the file than when you convert it to EPS all the shadows, fades, … , will be there at required resolution and not being just a large band of color. If you still can’t solve this at the end of the day or till tomorrow morning let me know and i’ll check it myself, im a bit busy now.Hope this didn’t got too much confusing. the process is very similar to Corel and you can find it in Corel trough Options/Document/Save, i’ll check later in Illustrator.
Cya
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Hi Franco,
sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I haven’t been able to open the file (it must be CS).
Britchenko seems to know his stuff and it certainly sounds feasable. Are you trying to primt directly from Illustrator or via another application?Good luck, Peter.
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Hi Franco,
I use illustrator all day everyday for vector artwork, then sending to flexisign……also using it to send eps artwork to Mimaki JV3 through rip…..if you like I can have alook at it…sitting at laptop with CS…illustrator is about all I know
Cheers
Andrew
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Hi Frank, I don’t really use Illustrator much myself but I think it has a fairly low resolution setting as standard for the “work in progress” and you have to force it to render the bitmaps/effects as a higher res. I could be barking up the wrong tree 🙄 but I personally would get round the problem by exporting the file as a bmp file at an appropriate resolution – i.e. if your final print is 4000x4000mm you might want it to be say 100dpi at this size so you need to save a 400mm image at 1000dpi from illustrator so it will scale up ok. If you do it this way the effects and resolution should not be a problem when you send it to the rip. Not an expert myself but still working on it 😀
Nigel
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hi everyone thanks for your help
thanks peter andyes it a cs file and i am printing through colourgate 3
i am trying out nigels solution at the moment and printing out 2 samples,
1 resized through the rip software and one resized in photoshop,i’ll let you know the result in half an hour 🙂
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Hi there,
Most effects in Illustrator are raster images when you save the file …By default Illustrator ‘s vector to raster conversion is set at 72 dpi which is ok for web but needs to be 300dpi for print. So under the menu “Effect / Document Raster Effect Settungs” you set the resolution to high 300dpi. Also under the menu “document setup / transparency” you should max the raster vector balance and again the Rasterization Resolution set to 300
Hope this helps
Iosif -
the print was better using nigels method, but i then checked the document setup as Iosif mentioned and it is set up as default so i will have to get back to the designer to resend the artwork, easier said than done………..
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FINALLY AFTER DOING A FEW ADJUSTMENTS I HAVE MANAGED TO GET A PRINT OUT TO THE CLIENT AND HE WAS HAPPY WITH THE RESULT. I USED NIGELS METHOD FOR RESIZING THE ARTWORK BUT JUST FOR THE GRADIENT PART OF THE ARTWORK, GOT THAT INTO PHOTOSHOP AND RESIZED TO FULL SIZE, THE VECTOR ARTWORK I RESIZED IN ILLISTRATOR AND THEN PLACED IT ONTO THE PHOTOSHOP FILE SAVED AS A TIF AND JOB DONE. THE CLIENT WAS HAPPY WITH THE RESULT EVAN THOUGH I WASN’T BUT THEN HE IS THE ONE PAYING :lol1: :lol1:
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