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  • Planning – 4 year rule

    Posted by Phill Fenton on May 26, 2015 at 12:12 pm

    Has anyone come across the "4 year rule" with regard to signs?

    http://www.planning-applications.co.uk/ … ment1b.htm

    Basically, the article above says that any works that have been in place for more than 4 years without planning permission and without being challenged cannot be enforced against.

    Does this mean that any sign that was put up more than 4 years ago (without planning permission) is deemed to be exempt? (In other words the council can no longer force the owner to take it down if it isn’t challenged within 4 years).

    And is so – does this apply in Scotland or does Scotland have a different set of rules?

    Michael Kalisperas replied 8 years, 11 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
  • 6 Replies
  • Kevin Flowers

    Member
    May 26, 2015 at 1:14 pm

    Phil
    i think scotland has its own act

    Town and Country Planning (Scotland) Act 1997

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1997/8/contents

    Kev

  • Kevin Flowers

    Member
    May 26, 2015 at 1:22 pm

    Phil
    seems rule may be the same

    http://www.gov.scot/Publications/2009/09/16092848/2

    Kev

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    May 26, 2015 at 2:59 pm

    Thanks Kevin- Not sure if this applies to signs – seems to be worded for houses, maybe someone else can confirm or deny?

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    May 26, 2015 at 9:22 pm

    I think we should try and wing it, wait till we are all in the Dock under cross examination. Then just blame Martin Pearson because he’s not around just now. Just don’t tell him i said it! 😕

    Thing is, even if it falls down after ten years, we can still be held responsible for it. :lol1:

  • Kevin Flowers

    Member
    May 27, 2015 at 9:11 am

    Hi
    point of fact Planning Permission does not insure that something isn’t going to fall down it is just a piece of paper stating that you have put something up with permission. Even building control is quite sketchy when doing inspections especially when they want to visually inspect from the floor etc which is why installers, sign makers etc should make sure they have a good understanding of Fixings, Material and building structure

    Kev

  • Michael Kalisperas

    Member
    May 28, 2015 at 7:21 pm

    I maybe wrong but doesn’t our work be scrutinised by the local authorities advertising rules. Planning being a seperate issue. So for example you need planning for certain signs but separating the planning aspect they have to adhere to local authority advertising rules. So possibly one may rule out the other?? I bet that don’t make sense but some how in my jumbled mind it does????

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