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  • Pay per click on laser printer copier

    Posted by Steff Davison on June 6, 2017 at 5:22 pm

    I would appreciate some advice, I am looking at purchasing a laser printer. The salesman I spoke to suggested that rather than buy consumables outright I would be better off with a pay per click model. I dont really want to go down this route if I can help it, although I am concerned about the service aspect of buying this type of machine.

    I wont be putting too much work through it, its more of a market tester and a means to free up some hours on my wide format machines.

    The machine is brand new and carries a 3 year parts warranty. What do I need to look out for, these people tend to smile too much for my liking.

    Kind Regards
    Steff

    Steff Davison replied 6 years, 11 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • David Hammond

    Member
    June 6, 2017 at 7:31 pm

    We’ve got a Xerox digital machine, under contract, here’s a few questions I’d be asking.

    What machine are you looking at and what are you looking to be printing through it?

    3 year parts warranty (excluding ware & tear I presume), but what about engineers coming to fit said parts?
    Do you need to purchase a minimum amount of clicks per quarter? (Our contract commits us to a minimum per 1/4)
    How much do the rates increase per year?
    Does the machine print SRA3 sheets? (essential if you’re looking to print A3 borderless prints, and leaflets etc)
    Is there an additional charge for A3, and SRA3?
    What is the maximum weight of paper that the machine will print, both single & auto duplexed?
    Are you looking for an inline finishing unit, so you can print booklets etc straight out the printer.

    Will you be looking to get a guillotine to trim the print too? There’s a bit of H&S that goes with those (twice annual service & keeping a log etc) but worth it no end if your work accommodates it.

    IMHO the most important bits…

    How long is the contract… how much notice to leave… does it auto renew… and is there a personal or directors guarantee?

    Our Xerox is under service contract, we go online order new consumables, they arrive next day. Ring an engineer in the morning, they’re usually there by lunch time, any parts they go an collect from stores all at no additional cost.

    Great machines for quick turnaround, and low volume, but the price of Litho print now, it’s cheaper to send some jobs out and get them a day or two later.

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    June 6, 2017 at 9:13 pm

    A right can of worms
    We have a sra3 Xerox on click.. you know where you stand on the click your costs are fixed just paper cost as a extra.
    Don’t be misled by the number of copies a toner cart will do that is only at the industry standard of 5% coverage = a small paragraph of text.
    A full sra3 page of colour costs many many times that so making the click more than sensible. The cost of the consumables. Toner belts drums fuser is outrageous again the click covers the lot.

    Enjoy

  • Steff Davison

    Member
    June 8, 2017 at 3:24 pm

    I dont need any add on equipment for this set up, its fairly straight forward, I want to mainly process card stock (275-325g)
    and I can convert it with my laser set up. Its mainly to see if there is a market, if it works then I will buy more specialist kit, if it doesnt work then I will use the machine as and when. I dont need 3 years to find out which scenario it will fall into. Thats why I would prefer that I can walk away whenever I like, if I pay slightly more, then I pay slightly more. If 2-3p a copy means the difference between success and failure I might as well not bother starting. It just seems odd that a higher level of cover results in a lower cost ( apparantly) of a print.

    Thank you for the advice,I will be going to have a look on Tuesday.

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    June 8, 2017 at 4:42 pm

    Call John at XCS, we have a larger set up here but I’m sure they cover all levels of machines etc. Good company to deal with.

  • Steff Davison

    Member
    June 8, 2017 at 6:18 pm

    Thank you for the recommend. I was tempted to buy a low mileage Versant 2100, but its a bit like cutting a piece of cheese with a chain saw for what I want to do. Xerox isnt the type of set up I am looking for, its more of an "art market" machine I have my eye on.

    Thanks Steff

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