Pantone charts/CMYK etc

[Tim Painter]

Hi Lorraine

I don’t print in house myself, but do you have any Pantone swatches at present you work to?

[Paul Hughes]

hi Lorraine

dont use signlab so have no idea with that.

but i would say what you need is the pantone colour bridge swatch.

it gives you a swtach of pantone colours and next to it shows you what you can print with CMYK (also give RGB values) some colours are much the same but some are way, way different.

very useful for doing what you want to do, but as with all pantone swatchs not cheap, £100 ish? but worth every penny in time and frustration saved.

Paul

[Lorraine Clinch]

Hi Paul, that sounds like the job-now off to Google, see where I can buy one from.
Tim, I don’t have a pantone swatch. One reason is because I don’t understand the difference between coated/uncoated
😳 😳 😳

Lorraine

[Andrew Martin]

Lorraine… the difference between uncoated and coated pantone swatches is the uncoated is matt and the coated is glossy, i find most people quote coated pantone ref numbers, and the ref number for a colour in both swatches looks very different.

[Lorraine Clinch]

Thanks Andrew, I did guess that might be the answer, but never having seen one, I didn’t know.
Totally showing myself up here!

[Peter Dee]

Lorraine, beware of bargain prices for Pantone guides, they will usually be well out of date.
Check here for the latest versions http://www.pantone.co.uk/pages/pantone/ … STEM%C2%AE
Whilst a guide can be a few years old and still useful I have found that so called special offers etc are often old stock being got rid of.

[Tim Painter]

Difference between Un-coated & Coated is NOT one is Matt one is Gloss.

It actually comes from litho print lorraine.

Un-coated paper stock has no pigment applied which mean inks absorb more.

Un-coated stock is bond paper like copy paper an open grain with no seal to put it simply.
Coated is either Matt, Gloss or Silk with a seal in simple terms.

On Un-coated paper stocks litho inks are partially absorbed which causes the ink to not be as vibrant.
On Coated stocks there is very little absorption and inks dry by solvent evaporation.

Vinyl is more like coated paper so go for coated swatches.

The 2 types of Pantone swatch are printed on different paper stock to show how each colour will appear. Un-coated paper stock obviously for the Un-coated version, Coated paper stock for the coated version.

[Kevin Flowers]

Lorraine
flexi can create pallettes fairly easily, just print & use values in your artwork. Don’t know what size printer you have this is 1200mm wide. If you need a smaller version let me know
Too big to add PM me your email & i will send it to you

Kev

[KevinGaffney]

Lorraine, colourconfidence.com is the people I’ve dealt with for my Pantone bridge swatches and a spectrophotometer. If you’re printing and you don’t have these swatches, you’ll get caught out eventually and it could cost you a lot more than the cost of the charts. Also make sure your profiles are properly calibrated for the materials you’re using, otherwise Pantone charts will be useless. It’s amazing the confidence you will have when you can see you have the correct colours.

[Andrew Martin]

quote Tim Painter:

Difference between Un-coated & Coated is NOT one is Matt one is Gloss.

It actually comes from litho print lorraine.

Un-coated paper stock has no pigment applied which mean inks absorb more.

Un-coated stock is bond paper like copy paper an open grain with no seal to put it simply.
Coated is either Matt, Gloss or Silk with a seal in simple terms.

On Un-coated paper stocks litho inks are partially absorbed which causes the ink to not be as vibrant.
On Coated stocks there is very little absorption and inks dry by solvent evaporation.

Vinyl is more like coated paper so go for coated swatches.

The 2 types of Pantone swatch are printed on different paper stock to show how each colour will appear. Un-coated paper stock obviously for the Un-coated version, Coated paper stock for the coated version.

The process of printing pantone swatches may be printed by litho and is used for that particular print process, but visually the difference between uncoated and coated is matt and gloss which is what Lorraine wanted to know.
I have already stated that most people use coated numbers, as vinyl is mostly gloss and that should be obvious, when I printed textiles and other media which were not reflective, uncoated pantone reference numbers was used.

[NeilFox]

Lorraine,

One of things that I have found very use and it has been mentioned in an earlier post is the Pantone Bridge.

Using CMYK to create a colour, can be off from the actual pantone colour. I always carry the bridge with me when meeting clients so that we can go through the colours needed. In this way I can also show the client tif there is any difference in the pantone colour they expect and the colour we can produce on the VS540.

I purchased my pantone swatches from Ebay. Make sure they are current or last years. As has been mentioned, some of them on Ebay are very old. (generally cheap).

Neil

[Peter Dee]

You can view all Pantone colours with RGB & CMYK conversions online here http://color4u.cocolog-nifty.com/colors … index.html

[Lorraine Clinch]

Thanks for all your advice, was very useful. I took delivery of a new Pantone Colour Bridge (coated) today, so I hope I will be printing colours much more accurately now.
My main issue was that yellows seem greenish, and reds more orangey than red. I have Richard Langley coming Weds to service the machine, so if it is a machine error hopefully he will sort it.

Cheers!
Lorraine

[John Dorling]

Hi Lorraine

How are you getting on with your Pantone Bridge book? I need to get one and wondered where you got yours from?

Thanks

John