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  • Outstanding debt, Board Member, Name and shame?

    Posted by John Thomson on June 4, 2014 at 9:29 am

    Hi,

    I have an outstanding debt with a board member.

    I did some trade printing for him back in February

    * Small amount
    * Less than £70
    * Not going to make me rich nor him poor

    I have been chasing him and his partner for the money since March.
    My phone numbers have been blocked, so they go straight to his and her answer service.
    Emails were ignored until I threatened to name and shame them on here.
    I was promised payment before the end of May but as expected it has not happened.

    The member is on regularly asking our community for advice for his new printer amongst other things.

    So my question is do I name and shame publicly on the Boards to help stop anyone else getting stung?
    Or should my debt recovery paralegal finance just sue him?

    Will be interested to hear everyone’s views.

    John

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    NeilFox replied 9 years, 11 months ago 20 Members · 30 Replies
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  • Gary Birch

    Member
    June 4, 2014 at 9:58 am

    Hopefully seeing this post will be enough for you to get paid. Maybe email him a link to the thread and give him 24 hours to cough up if not name him.

    Whoever it is…. Shame on you!!!

    Good Luck in getting it though.

  • Reza Faezi

    Member
    June 4, 2014 at 10:01 am

    We are all in the same game here and know the score. Its bad enough having this issue with customers never mind with a fellow member. And the fact you have been chasing them for 3 months and they have also blocked your number, indicates they are hiding. I don’t think you should name and shame but on the other hand i wouldn’t like to get "stung" by the same member, the threat would be enough for me to pay if i was that "fellow member". If they still dont pay, a debt recovery company is the only option. Like you say, "its not not going to make me rich nor him poor" but the principle of it

  • Colin Crabb

    Member
    June 4, 2014 at 10:44 am

    Post here each day, one letter of their name, till payment received 👿

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    June 4, 2014 at 11:48 am

    Well I’ve been through all the printer forums and I still can’t figure out who it is…you’re going to have to give us more clues John 😕

  • John McCormick

    Member
    June 4, 2014 at 12:09 pm
    quote Phill Fenton:

    Well I’ve been through all the printer forums and I still can’t figure out who it is…you’re going to have to give us more clues John 😕

    Think I might have guessed. But it’s hard enough chasing money out of the general public!!! Shouldn’t have to hassle people you are helping out on here!
    I believe in paying for everything at time of order, and know I can sleep at night.

  • Steve Morgan

    Member
    June 4, 2014 at 12:45 pm

    I’m quite lucky I suppose in that I’ve not had many problems like this, on the one occasion that comes to mind the fellow did exactly tha same. If he’d rung me and explained why I would have been more tollerant; he didn’t so I used the Small Claims Court with ultimately a good result, a County Court Judgement can have a lasting effect as I imagine he has now found out.

    Lets have his name and trading name.

  • Ewan Chrystal

    Member
    June 4, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    Like others have said i pay for everything when i order, except from one trade supplier who i have built a good working relationship with. Hopefully he/she will read this and pay you. The problem is if they have done it you for such a small amount it makes you wonder how much they owe others

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    June 4, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    mmmmmm, hope it’s not the same member who owes me money as well 😮

  • John Thomson

    Member
    June 4, 2014 at 9:10 pm
    quote Ewan Chrystal:

    Like others have said i pay for everything when i order, except from one trade supplier who i have built a good working relationship with. Hopefully he/she will read this and pay you. The problem is if they have done it you for such a small amount it makes you wonder how much they owe others

    I’m like you Ewan…….I pay if not up front certainly right away……especially when someone is doing you a good turn.

    Warren…………maybe I have opened a can of worms here.

    I can remember the old days when the boards had a bad debtors section to help us avoid doing work for customers who owed money to other board members.
    Like I said in the original post it is not a lot of money here…….especially as he has now bought a printer……to me he simply thinks he can ignore it by blocking phone numbers.

    there are many ways to skin a cat……………..

    John

  • Martin Cole

    Member
    June 5, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    Lets not beat around the bush John…

    Who is it ??

    Also a great idea from Colin

    quote Colin Crabb:

    Post here each day, one letter of their name, till payment received 👿

    😀

  • Steve McAdie

    Member
    June 5, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    Seems to me that he has spent your money on a new printer for himself, with that in mind i would give him one last chance to settle up right away, no bull**** excuses or delays just straight transfer to account if he doesn’t then name him and let the dogs have him.

    Steve

  • Jamie Wood

    Member
    June 6, 2014 at 8:36 am

    Yup. They should be ashamed – name them.

  • josh morris

    Member
    June 6, 2014 at 9:30 am

    i say name them, you’ve given them plenty of opportunity

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    June 6, 2014 at 9:42 am

    Yep!

  • Tim Cowlishaw

    Member
    June 6, 2014 at 11:53 am

    hes made us all suspects When you look at it

  • George Elsmore

    Member
    June 6, 2014 at 12:15 pm

    (puppy-eyes) cheques in post soz

  • Jason Xuereb

    Member
    June 6, 2014 at 1:16 pm

    baseball bat. tell them to invoice you for the damage.

    (:)

  • Jean Oakley

    Member
    June 8, 2014 at 10:38 am

    make sure he is aware of this thread give him till close of play on wednesday (thats a week from first mentioning this) and then name and shame if money not in your account. No excuses, no fobbing off no bull and no cheques in the post just a direct transfer to your bank. I feel mad for you its just not on

  • John Harding

    Member
    June 8, 2014 at 12:19 pm

    yep a letter a day/hangman style game and you could give the winner £70 prize of free trade printing 😀

  • John Thomson

    Member
    June 8, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    Well I am sure that, lets call him "LW" has read this thread ( I emailed a link) but unfortunately has chosen not to settle his debt.

    One of the things about having an unusual name is that a simple Google search of it brings up all sorts of info on the person.

    Very quickly it gives you Facebook (both him and his partner refused my friend request lol) details confirming telephone numbers, when the business page was created, business name, address….etc which all tie in with the details I already have.

    Lots of other details including Twitter accounts and the like spring up.

    What it also flags up on Linkedin ( he did not respond to my request to join his network lol ) is that his sign business appears to be a sideline…..he actually works full time for a large sign company…………wonder if the bosses know about the sideline business?

    His employer is currently pushing a new division and website in their business as they move into wraps etc.

    Why am I pointing out all this?

    Well it all comes back to Google…..if or when I name and shame by put his and who he works for’s details in this thread………. then because this is the highest ranking English speaking sign forum in the world on Google ( and all other search engines), if anyone searches for him , his business or the company he works for………this thread will come up ranked number one on Google…..above his or his employers own website pointing out his debt.

    That is certainly not going to go down well at the next Board meeting.

    What a lot of grief to bring on yourself for less than £70?

    John

  • John Harding

    Member
    June 8, 2014 at 12:53 pm

    so what youre saying is ive got to owe you money before you friend request me on Facebook 😳

    LW blows my first go at hangman 😕

  • Gary Birch

    Member
    June 8, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    I think you are being very reasonable john. Far more than he deserves.

  • Scott.Evans

    Member
    June 8, 2014 at 1:25 pm

    my magic wand points at Sheffield (:) are my bullets on target on who to avoid 😀

  • Jean Oakley

    Member
    June 8, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    Or you contact his employer ?

  • Ewan Chrystal

    Member
    June 8, 2014 at 10:59 pm

    Hmmm, Elementary my dear Watson?

  • Jean Oakley

    Member
    June 9, 2014 at 9:12 am

    also re him blocking your number, use someone else’s mobil to call him

  • John Harding

    Member
    June 9, 2014 at 10:38 am

    Yayy – put his number up we can all call him 😀 😀

  • John Thomson

    Member
    June 9, 2014 at 11:09 am

    An acceptable agreement has been made and this should bring an end to the matter.

    John

  • Gary Birch

    Member
    June 9, 2014 at 11:24 am
    quote John Thomson:

    An acceptable agreement has been made and this should bring an end to the matter.

    John

    Good News John. Well Done

  • NeilFox

    Member
    June 10, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    Glad things got sorted John, but is seems a lot of hard work and aggro to get paid what is owed to you.

    I agree that someone in the same business should know better. In my view, after all reasonable steps have been taken, but before taking them to court, Name & Shame them. They will have more trouble if you go down the court route, which may eventually be needed in some cases.

    Naming and Shaming not only gets their attention, but it also flags them for other sign companies. These type of people will only learn when they are forced out of this business because they cannot get the support and services needed to do business.

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