• Posted by Brian Little on May 3, 2011 at 8:39 am

    so the man is dead . We can all sleep a little safer in our beds can we ? Im no military or political expert but im just wondering who will take his place and rreally how much of a threat he was in the first place. We can only really take for granted what our media & goverments tel us .The later controlling what the media say anyway.

    Alex Pirozek replied 12 years, 11 months ago 17 Members · 35 Replies
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  • Shane Drew

    Member
    May 3, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    Hang on for the retaliation Brian.

    I think the man was the devil personified. I see today he even used his wife as a shield when the shooting started.

    I don’t doubt the evil this man preached will taken up by another despot, there are plenty of them around.

  • Brian Little

    Member
    May 3, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    thats a certain Shane

  • Nigel Pugh

    Member
    May 3, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    So they killed the guy gave him a burial at sea as per his religion and the DNA sample proves he was the guy!!!!!

    Hmmm three things from the above sentence that cannot be proved if the TPTB don’t want it to be proved. Dirty nuke either USA or Europe as a retaliation!!!!

    I feel the very people you vote for are the same ones who are committing these crimes against their own people…….ok I’ll get off my soap box now.

    Nigel

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    May 4, 2011 at 7:04 pm
    quote Nigel Pugh:

    I feel the very people you vote for are the same ones who are committing these crimes against their own people.

    Nigel

    It also emerged in the papers today that The White House said he was "unarmed" when they shot him between the eyes and once in the chest for good measure!

    10 Years it has took to find this guy.
    When they do, they instantly kill him & then dispose of the body as quick as possible. WHY?

    Why not capture him alive, and on TV show Obama standing there next to him telling the world there is no hiding place for terrorists?

    Instead we get Obama saying…
    I ordered this, I ordered that, I sent in the troops etc etc
    Do we have someone trying to save a bit of face here by finding our long lost enemy…. :lol1:
    yeh maybe, but then killed him and dropped his body in the bloody ocean before any questions can be asked…

    Oh yeh, and now we have caught & killed him, the security level will increase again because of fear of retaliation? be ready to drink baby milk, strip and bend, hear the snap of the rubber glove… and then you can board your plane! :lol1:

    Fine, this guy is a known terrorist. a bad evil man and the world is a better place without him, and i am sure he was… but Why? because the same people have told us he was?

    We were also told he orchestrated 9/11 which in itself is finger pointing under a mountain of lies.

    Just my opinion of course. 😉 :lol1: :lol1:

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    May 4, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    i don’t think he even existed……he was made up excuse to gain oil 😎

  • David Rowland

    Member
    May 4, 2011 at 8:10 pm
    quote Robert Lambie:

    Oh yeh, and now we have caught & killed him, the security level will increase again because of fear of retaliation? be ready to drink baby milk, strip and bend, hear the snap of the rubber glove… and then you can board your plane! :lol1:

    Would that be called Virgin airwaves…. sign me up! sounds like fun 😀

    osama… wasn’t saudi asked if they wanted the body, they said no and as the religion states u must bury then so be it…. sea was a good choice as then he wont be found again. I suspect as the americans chucked him overboard, he landed ontop of a russian sub!

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    May 4, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    :lol1: so they admit to shooting dead an unarmed man and his wife.
    chased him for 10 years for X-amount of murders of thousands of people.

    then think… "ohhh… we better give him a nice wee send off" 5 minutes after killing him?

    "ehhh Saudi Arabia, dae you lot want this dead body?"

    "nah… "

    " ok, chuck him into the sea lads"

    "OK the good people of the world… do not sigh with relief just yet, coz now all his pals, wifes and children are coming after us for catching him" :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

    think outside the box…

  • David Rowland

    Member
    May 4, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    The question was asked…. that get’s the americans out of carelessness

    What I am interested, where is the real problem, the Al Q no 2… sha hari is it?

    is he next door and they forgot to check?

  • Brian Little

    Member
    May 4, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    hmmm i used to believe (rather naively ) all the bull shit that government & media sources told us ….government a lot more selective what i take in now . Perhaps its an age thing ..I note on the news tonight that obama said he didnt actually see him getting killed but the look on Hillery Clinton’s face says it all for me .Perhaps she was shocked at there interior design tastes. I fined it difficult that the Pakistanis didnt actually know he was liivng there.

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    May 4, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    Apparently America are planning to have a holiday to celebrate the death of Bin Laden.

    I can picture it now, everyone singing, "We’re all going on Osama holiday.."

    😉

  • David Rowland

    Member
    May 4, 2011 at 10:52 pm

    i hope not… should not celebrated, just accepted.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    May 5, 2011 at 8:30 am
    quote Robert Lambie:

    Apparently America are planning to have a holiday to celebrate the death of Bin Laden.

    I can picture it now, everyone singing, “We’re all going on Osama holiday..

    In response to current events, deranged fanatics have issued this chilling video message 😕

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  • Glenn Sharp

    Member
    May 5, 2011 at 8:35 am

    I wonder which country we’ll be invading next as a result of the ‘retaliation’ brought on by the execution without trial of Bin Laden

    One World Government anybody ??

  • Karl Williams

    Member
    May 5, 2011 at 8:50 am

    When Saddam was hung there were pictures in the papers and on the net as proof he was dead. So why deny the world any proof on the death of such a high profile terrorist such as Bin Laden? I don’t think he’s dead. Just more U.S cover ups to avoid more hijackings for the demand for his return.

  • Mike Grant

    Member
    May 5, 2011 at 9:26 am

    The Irish SAS joined in the US assault over the weekend. They stormed Debenhams after hearing Summer Bed Linen was on the third floor.

    A anagram of Osama Bin Laden is………….."lob da man in sea"

  • Mike Grant

    Member
    May 5, 2011 at 9:29 am

    Elton John has just written a new song….."Sandals in the bin"

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    May 5, 2011 at 9:40 am

    Not forgetting that the US President is a Muslim, but they really ‘had’ to bury him with the Islamic requirements for fear that it would offend millions of Muslims. That would have been a nightmare of biblical proportions. It wasn’t worth the grief.

    I’m not into the conspiracy theories. I think he is dead, and I think they killed him because he wouldn’t co operate.

    Lets not forget they were in a foreign land uninvited. They had a set time to get out, and OBL had already said he wouldn’t go alive. As it was, pakistan had already started to scramble jets, and the US only got out by the barest of margins.

    I think also that the US knew bringing him home alive would serve no purpose. It would have given him an opportunity to be martyred, and he would have incited more hate for the west just by being in prison.

    Plus, he would have cost the Americans a fortune to keep. The security around him 24/7, in a high security jail, as well as the risk of sympathizers getting his message out to the world media. It would have been a costly exercise.

    We only have to see the Muslim sympathizers that are IN the US army, they have killed there own in US camps.

    I just think the American SEALS were told if he does co operate, then dispose of him.

    Live by the sword, die by the sword. Its a simple philosophy. One no doubt OBL lived by too.

  • Glenn Sharp

    Member
    May 5, 2011 at 10:22 am

    Did he ever admit to 9/11 though?….I’m not sure he did

    It was suggested that he had in the Western media but I’m sure through Al Jazeera he always professed he was unconnected

    You’d have thought he would have been shooting his mouth of if he had been the mastermind behind it all.

    How can they be sure that he was guilty without a trial?……they were sure Iraq had WMD and look what happened there

  • OwenTaylor

    Member
    May 5, 2011 at 10:34 am

    It has never been proven that OBL had anything to do with the 9/11 attacks and so America didn’t have anything to actually charge him for from a legal standpoint. What could they do – lock him in Guantanamo Bay for years – isn’t Obama intending to close this illegal prison anyway?

    It all just seems too convenient for me. America is running out of money and need to get out of Afghanistan. OBL’s death has done Obama no harm in the opinion polls and he is milking it for all it’s worth – a visit to Ground Zero this week…I mean come on! I’m not a conspiracy theorist but we have been presented with no firm evidence whatsoever that OBL has been killed, except for what America has told us and in my opinion that should be taken with a pinch of salt.

    The threat of Terrorism was severe when OBL was alive, it’s still severe now he’s aparently dead. In my opinion OBL’s death (fact or fiction) doesn’t really change anything. No matter what happens there will always be a bunch of insane people who are willing to murder innocent civilians to suit their own ideals.

  • Ivan Morley

    Member
    May 5, 2011 at 11:00 am

    Of course it’s not true. 😕

    The Americans were upset that the Royal Wedding had taken the top spot in the news, so they had to do something. 😮

  • Alex Pirozek

    Member
    May 5, 2011 at 11:13 am

    One thing i will say….. I’m glad so many people are slowing waking to the western propaganda and all the BS they are producing in the media. Yes he was a nasty man but is he any worse than some in power today that are throwing their weight around in Iraq/ Afghanistan and now Libya!!
    End of the day he was never directly connected to 9/11 and anyone who actually looks into the facts of that event would see that it would take military planning by lots of people and not someone in a cave!
    There are so many qualified people now questioning the many anomalies that the issue will never go away.
    It was the CIA that created him in the first place when it suited them back with the war with Afghanistan/ Russia and now they’ve finished with his services it was time to cut him loose…..Dead men don’t tell any tales!!!

    It seems Gadaffi is next on the agenda for them..

    One of the best quotes that always spring to my mind.

    You can fool all the people some of the time, you can even fool some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time

    My opinion of course
    😀

  • Gert du Preez

    Member
    May 5, 2011 at 11:20 am

    I have to admit, I see the logic behind the US’s actions. Reasons for it are numerous, but lets leave it at that……

    I grew up in a country plagued by terrorism. You could not walk into a grocery store without being searched…. The very first thing as a 6 year old in Grade1 we were taught was to recognize a bomb – every classroom had a poster with pictures of the different explosive devices used by the terrorists. We had teams in school ( yes, even primary school) who arrived an hour before school started to search the premises for bombs. IMHO the normal rules are not applied BY terrorists, thus the normal rules should not be applied in dealing WITH terrorists.

    I just wish a similar level of decisive action could have been taken in years past for the perpetrators of genocide in Africa.

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    May 5, 2011 at 11:22 am

    Actually the quote is:

    quote :

    You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
    Abraham Lincoln, (attributed)
    16th president of US (1809 – 1865)

    While I’m not celebrating Osama’s death with a big party, I am certainly not mourning him. I do have my American flag out. I believe we were correct in burying him with respect to his religion, and I think it would be wrong to display gory death photos. This man was no better than Hitler, in my opinion. And there was a lot of dancing in the streets on 9-11 in his neck of the woods.
    Love….Jill

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    May 5, 2011 at 11:47 am

    Interesting quote – "We love death. The U.S. loves life. That is the difference between us two." Osama bin Laden

  • OwenTaylor

    Member
    May 5, 2011 at 4:39 pm
    quote Jill Marie Welsh:

    Actually the quote is:

    quote :

    You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
    Abraham Lincoln, (attributed)
    16th president of US (1809 – 1865)

    I thought it was a Bob Marley lyric 😕 😉

  • Brian Little

    Member
    May 5, 2011 at 9:11 pm
    quote Glenn Sharp:

    Did he ever admit to 9/11 though?….I’m not sure he did

    It was suggested that he had in the Western media but I’m sure through Al Jazeera he always professed he was unconnected

    You’d have thought he would have been shooting his mouth of if he had been the mastermind behind it all.

    How can they be sure that he was guilty without a trial?……they were sure Iraq had WMD and look what happened there

    interesting point glen …i nev er did here him shout his mouth off unlike these clerics in the uk shouting death to British soldiers …and shouting this on British streets and getting away with it …be cause we believe in free speech in this country …but where do we draw the line. im sure im right that one of them was thrown out of this country just to return as he had open heart surgery booked !!! I just hope they have got the right man

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    May 5, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    I bet Osama Bin Laden is raging now for having filled in his Census Form.

  • Gert du Preez

    Member
    May 6, 2011 at 6:51 am

    I dont know why they took 10 years to find him.

    Readers Digest could do it in 2 weeks……

  • Alex Pirozek

    Member
    May 6, 2011 at 6:57 am

    Not sure what to make of this but a good read anyway.

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/top-us-gove … -flag.html

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … pound.html

    One thing I’m confused about is the photo of him supposedly shot dead but Obama has said that he has blocked the photo because it is too gruesome and insensitive to Muslims. So what is this photo and where did it come from that was in the mainstream press all around the world soon after the event.??

    (chat.)

  • Craig Gibson

    Member
    May 6, 2011 at 8:34 am

    Bartender, I will have a Osama!
    whats that?
    2 shots and a splash of water.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    May 6, 2011 at 4:10 pm
    quote OwenTaylor:

    I mean come on! I’m not a conspiracy theorist but we have been presented with no firm evidence whatsoever that OBL has been killed, except for what America has told us and in my opinion that should be taken with a pinch of salt.

    Apparently Al Quaeda have admitted he’s dead
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13313201

    Unless of course – they’re in on the conspiracy too 😮 😕

  • OwenTaylor

    Member
    May 9, 2011 at 9:59 am
    quote Phill Fenton:

    quote OwenTaylor:

    I mean come on! I’m not a conspiracy theorist but we have been presented with no firm evidence whatsoever that OBL has been killed, except for what America has told us and in my opinion that should be taken with a pinch of salt.

    Apparently Al Quaeda have admitted he’s dead
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13313201

    Unless of course – they’re in on the conspiracy too 😮 😕

    Well in that case they must be 🙂 Any excuse to threaten the west, get some publicity and recruit new members more likely.

    Another reason for finding OBL in Pakistan has emerged this week too, and that’s that America will now be withdrawing the $3 Billion in aid it provides Pakistan every year…

  • Roche' Du Plessis

    Member
    May 17, 2011 at 10:15 am

    Firstly (if they did actually kill him)……I think its sick to see people dancing in the street, celebrating the death of someone…Just cos "some People" said he was a threat………… And secondly, Why do the americans HATE osama so much?! Cos the american Government has rammed that whole "terrorist" card so far down their throats, they cant see clearly…………..Osama DIDNT Blow up the Twin towers, Americas Own government did!! (dont belive me, Go research the evidence for your self)….. osama was just a convienient scape goat, while Ol George Bush, Was nothing more than a turn-coat!!……… Fear is control….And using terrorism as a means of control is a story thats seen far too often now days!!………….Dont fall prey to all the smoke n the mirrors….Dont blindly believe all the garbage that the media feeds you….. READ!!! EDUCATE YOURSELF!! AND STRIVE FOR TRUTH!!! Dont just settle for some watered down truth thats fed to you!! The government LIES about everything else……So why believe some silly Osama story!?! :noeveil:

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    May 17, 2011 at 10:04 pm
    quote Roche’ Du Plessis:

    So why believe some silly Osama story!?! :noeveil:

    Because I generally apply the principles of Occam’s Razor in any judgment I make :lol1:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor

  • Alex Pirozek

    Member
    May 18, 2011 at 6:36 pm
    quote :

    TRUTH!!! Don’t just settle for some watered down truth that’s fed to you!! The government LIES about everything else……So why believe some silly Osama story!?!

    Strong stuff but I’m toying towards Phil’s theory of Occam’s Razor. I’m convinced that what they’ve told us happened on that day really isn’t the case but until all the experts have gathered the all the evidence and actually brought a case forward that does more than just challenge the official rubbish story then it’s best to assume the Occam’s Razor theory.

    I know what i saw (or do I) as i wasn’t there but watched in on the telly and countless others that have testified but here we are nearly 10 years on and still no real challenge to the official story. It’s as if they are feeding us with misinformation to keep the truth seekers occupied while the elite plan the next big thing!!

    Government’s don’t just lie…. they lie constantly and you will only take notice when it effects you or your family, unfortunately that is the world we live in now.
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