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opinions please
today I was asked if I could replace these graphics, now I have no Idea who did them, but I was told how much they cost, and how long they took to fit. Comments, and your estimated costs and fitting time, would be interesting before I reveal all.
If by any chance a board member did this job, you have the opportunity to confess/give your side of the story!
Peter
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I reckon they would have taken most of a day to fit. Price wise about £400 and that was probably too cheap considering the time and effort that would have gone into it
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Peter
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I’d be pretty near to Phill’s estimate 6-7 hours to fit, £375-£425ish
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it was layered vinyl but look closely at the louvres (slotted bits to you
Phill) the main pink bit is sprayed it’s only the flowers that are vinylPeter
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i think it is hard to tell if its dodgy paintwork or badly fitted.
i do see some creases though. lots of the flowers dont seem to be aligned properly with the pink shadow and the like.
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quote Robert Lambie:i would guess about 3 hours for both sides.
Blimmey! My estimate did include lunch and 3 coffee breaks 🙂
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Got to go with Rob on this one, about 3 hours depending on conditions.
obviously Phill was fitting it outside in a thunderstorm to get his 6-7 hours -
well? what’s the answer Peter? 😀
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quote Marcella:well? what’s the answer Peter? 😀£1600 and 12 hours
lynn
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quote Lynn:quote Marcella:well? what’s the answer Peter? 😀
£1600 and 12 hours
lynn
😮 what?
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quote Marcella:quote Lynn:quote Marcella:well? what’s the answer Peter? 😀
£1600 and 12 hours
lynn
😮 what?
sright
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😮 GOOD GRIEF 😮
Send his mates down my way
I took another look at it when I got home, I guess 2 hrs per side
is more realistic.And all we here about is people under charging.
Imagine getting one of those a week.
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Rob got the point with the creases and blubs, the vinyl was cheap stuff, applied wet, and the whole thing was not good.
just makes you wonder why the signage world sometimes gets a bad name.Peter
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So how much are you ripping off …. er… charging this customer Peter 😀
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no disrespect to V-DUB lovers out there… but i wouldn’t give you £1600 for the van with those graphics chucked in. :lol1:
i think you should name and shame them peter… member or not. :lol1:
shame for the workmanship, not for having the audacity to put the hand out for £1600 when complete :lol1: -
quote Robert Lambie:no disrespect to V-DUB lovers out there… but i wouldn’t give you £1600 for the van with those graphics chucked in. :lol1:
Can’t think of any VDub owners, can you Rob? 😉
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absolutely none what so ever phill :lol1:
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Sticking my neck out here, but I reckon, done right, layered, 6-7 hours would be on the money for one bloke.
Not only a bad fitting job, but the vector/cutting is crap.
Why did the guy pay it if he wasn’t happy? My clients wouldn’t.
Rob, that van as you see it would probably sell here for $3000 or $4000. A completely restored one sold here last year for $17000.
A VW enthusist with plenty of money no doubt.
I sold my old ’75 kombi last year to a guy that walked up to me in the street and offered me $3000 cash as is. I couldn’t get his money off him quick enough. Then he spent another $5000 redoing the suspension, brakes, gearbox, paint etc, and gave it to his Doctor son as a xmas present.
Saw him a month or so ago, looking for another one for himself.
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I dont know who did it, the van is in a bodyshop, under complete restoration, the owner apparantly paid upfront.
The bodyshop told the owner about the bad work, and the advice that came back from the fitters was "you could laquer over it, but if you put it in the spray oven for a couple of hours, it will settle down"I advised the bodyshop to leave the vinyl in place untill the owner has either got a refund plus additional payment for the removal and if required, repairs to paint. Or been given the chance to rectify the job themselves by paying a professional to redo it.
Phill, I quoted around £400 to redo, including artwork, as Shane points out, the cutting/vector is rubbish.
I would go for layered 10year cast rather than print, for the extra life expectancy,
Fitting time, 2-3hours. (2 base layers built up in shop)
Peter
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My workbench isn’t big enough! 🙁 I need to make some space, I struggled with the Impreza the other week. I had to use a sheet of ply on the floor!
Bit of a rip off @ £1600! Plus I think my work standard would be a bit higher, and that’s saying something!
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Looking closer, the bodywork isn’t that hot either (light appetures etc) so some of the wrinkles in the vinyl could be rust bubbles underneath…..especially if it was done wet…..
Adam
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Adam, the painwork is A1 no rust at all,
It was painted 2 days before the vinyl was applied ( Iknow about gasing etc) but the bubbles were there when the fitters left.Peter
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quote Nicola McIntosh:Adam, the painwork is A1 no rust at all,
It was painted 2 days before the vinyl was applied ( Iknow about gasing etc) but the bubbles were there when the fitters left.Peter
Peter? you’ve changed mate… or have I had too much vino…. 😕
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2-3 hrs 😮 I would never be able to do it in that time, probably take an hour to set up/draw the file, and then about 4hrs fitting (there are three layers and some louvres). Love to charge £1600
Dave
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too expensive in my opinion,
i think the art would take longer than the application personally, i would reckon on a few hours to fit (all going well), but probably the same on the computer making the cut files,
so, assuming 3hrs art, 3hrs app, and aprx 18m of 751c vinyl, would still be under £500 for that job,
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Ok Peter, I just looked at the light apetures, saw all the filler and made an assumption!
Strange that you’ve turned into Nicola! lol
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quote Shane Drew:Peter? you’ve changed mate… or have I had too much vino…. 😕Nice spot Shane 😀
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quote Andrew Bennett:quote Shane Drew:Peter? you’ve changed mate… or have I had too much vino…. 😕
Nice spot Shane 😀
Figured it was the vino Mate, switched to breezers now…. no different tho, just that peter is looking more attractive. 😕
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quote Lynn:quote Marcella:well? what’s the answer Peter? 😀
£1600 and 12 hours
lynn
atleast Dick Turpin wore a mask 😮 🙄
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TBH can’t see anything wrong with it apart from the price…..!!
I see this quality of work day in day out from other companies.When i put a price in for a job and get the reply "how much! Joe blogs down the road only wants half that" that’s what they normally end up and are quite happy as it was cheap.. (god knows why)
The customer must have been happy with it to pay the cash.. and it was only the body shop that pointed it out??If they paid £1600 I’d do it for £1k and take as long as i wanted 😀
Seriously though i recon about £450-500 but it would take me most of the day setting up cutting and laying
Simon
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quote Simon C:TBH can’t see anything wrong with it apart from the price…..!!
SimonSimon, the customer paid upfront, the bodyshop were right to point out the faults. If you cant see anything wrong with it, zoom in and look at the fitting round the louvres.
Peter
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quote Simon C:TBH can’t see anything wrong with it apart from the price…..!!
I see this quality of work day in day out from other companies.i agree on the price thing mate, however, if those around you offered that standard of work as normal. you should be snapping up their business simon 😉
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Sorry Peter, miss read it i thought they had seen it first then paid for it…then again there’s no way I’d pay anyone £1600 up front.. I can see how badly it has been done but would the customer of noticed if not pointed out by the body shop????…
Sadly not Rob, all they see is a cheap price, if i had said £550 for that Vbud i can guarantee someone around here would charge £200, and if it turned out like that, the customer would still be happy coz it was cheap 😥
Simon
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Artwork would be more than fitting but I recon on 1 days work materials £350 ish.
They must be charging more for their materials 😮Was there VAT on top of that?
Steve
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