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  • OH DEAR, OH DEAR ENGLAND

    Posted by Martin Cole on November 21, 2007 at 10:19 pm

    Please no jokes I can’t take it 🙁

    One of the worst nights for English football ever (puppy-eyes)

    I would love to have seen England and Scotland (who were robbed) go through. But it wasn’t to be 🙁

    I know there aren’t many football people on here 🙁 so I’ll drown my own sorrows 🙁

    The only thing that could make it up is West Ham winning the premiership :no1: chance.

    Glenn Sharp replied 16 years, 5 months ago 22 Members · 36 Replies
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  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    November 21, 2007 at 10:23 pm

    ooops………………… :noeveil:

    well at least we all bowl out together 😉

    nik

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    November 21, 2007 at 10:27 pm
    quote Martin Cole:

    Please no jokes I can’t take it 🙁

    One of the worst nights for English football ever (puppy-eyes)

    I would love to have seen England and Scotland (who were robbed) go through. But it wasn’t to be 🙁

    I know there aren’t many football people on here 🙁 so I’ll drown my own sorrows 🙁

    The only thing that could make it up is West Ham winning the premiership :no1: chance.

    Go through were Martin?
    😉

    Peter

  • John & Dawn Roddick

    Member
    November 21, 2007 at 10:40 pm

    I watched the game and just don’t think they played well enough to deserve to go through. In the first half Croatia seemed much more motivated even though the game was meaningless for them.

    Dawn

  • Martin Cole

    Member
    November 21, 2007 at 10:52 pm
    quote Peter Normington:

    Go through were Martin?
    😉

    Peter

    Peter I said no jokes 😀

    Dawn your dead right, we were just not good enough at the end of the day 😕

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    November 21, 2007 at 10:56 pm

    I reckon some harsh truths need to be accepted. We are just not very good. Everyone expects this team to win all the time but they are overrated. The last incarnation of the England side (when Beckham and his generation were at their peak) were our best chance of winning something. A few years in the wilderness is in order, I reckon.

    As for the manager, who decided to hire him? Didn’t his side get relegated the last year he was in charge?

  • John & Dawn Roddick

    Member
    November 21, 2007 at 11:09 pm
    quote Andy Gorman:

    Didn’t his side get relegated the last year he was in charge?

    Don’t think so Andy, but if I remember rightly his jacket was on a shaky nail at Middlesborough near the end and he was only saved by their run in the UEFA cup.

    Dawn

  • Michael Tremarco

    Member
    November 21, 2007 at 11:34 pm

    To be outplayed is hard to accept but happens, but to be outfought when so much was at stake is criminal. 😥

  • David Rowland

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 1:10 am

    it was a horrid pitch, but the Croatians worked it well. We had some good bits in second half and they had some stonkers, oh well. I guess this will be a lesson to us English.

  • James Martin

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 2:50 am

    I’m going to see Frank Skinner tonight in Glasgow hope he’s not on a downer.
    Might be a better show with both sides of the border in the same boat.

  • George Elsmore

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 8:05 am

    Absolute garbage 🙁 so it looks like the home internationals next summer 😀

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 9:00 am

    So I see all the grim faced FA big wigs are making their way to the boardroom now to make a sacrifice to appease the baying public.

    So how come it’s the manager that gets sacked when the players don’t perform. If I was the manager I would sack all the players and recruit some new ones that gave a damn – there’s some pretty good foreign players playing for a lot of British clubs – so why not recruit them to represent the country 😕 😕

  • Harry Cleary

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 9:39 am
    quote George Elsmore:

    so it looks like the home internationals next summer 😀

    Oh great, we’ll get to win something then! 😀 😀

    Tough on England & Scotland. Ireland didn’t deserve to qualify so we don’t feel too bad. I agree with Phil….it’s the attitude of the modern player and the influence of The Premiership and The Champions League (aka MONEY). Its not the zenith of a players career to play for their country anymore, they all seem to be able to take it or leave it. It might not be as evident in England how much club managers influence national teams (eg, releasing players, stipulating how long they play for etc) but they do have a huge effect on teams like Ireland anyway.

    It’s frankly ridiculous that a team like England can’t qualify for Europe and it should prompt a root and branch re-organisation and re-focus…..but with managers like Alex Ferguson and the mullahs in the Premiership and the Champions League I can’t see it happening. Internationals will be sidelined as the ‘boring'(to me anyway) marketing circus that is club football becomes all pervasive. Watch Rugby go the same way too. 🙁 🙁

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 9:51 am

    Yip, Steve has been sacked :lol1:

  • Cheryl Smith

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 11:14 am

    was in Scotland to watch the Scots lose………to come home to England to another miserable match and miserable faces!! and to think the Scots that I know had tiny consolation that at least England squeezed in!
    This is crap for my brothers pub business next year!

  • Graeme Harrold

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 1:16 pm
    quote Warren Beard:

    Yip, Steve has been sacked :lol1:

    Sacked for making a few decisions that did not pay off…………..Why didn’t someone in the FA get the sack for appointing the "wrong man" in the first place…………..guess the buck doesn’t quite stop at the top after all !!!!

  • Adrian Yeo

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 1:25 pm

    Steve sacked and a 2.5M handshake…….. Can I have a go next please!! 😀

  • Graeme Harrold

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 1:27 pm
    quote Harry Cleary:

    quote George Elsmore:

    so it looks like the home internationals next summer 😀

    Oh great, we’ll get to win something then! 😀 😀

    Tough on England & Scotland. Ireland didn’t deserve to qualify so we don’t feel too bad. I agree with Phil….it’s the attitude of the modern player and the influence of The Premiership and The Champions League (aka MONEY). Its not the zenith of a players career to play for their country anymore, they all seem to be able to take it or leave it. It might not be as evident in England how much club managers influence national teams (eg, releasing players, stipulating how long they play for etc) but they do have a huge effect on teams like Ireland anyway.

    It’s frankly ridiculous that a team like England can’t qualify for Europe and it should prompt a root and branch re-organisation and re-focus…..but with managers like Alex Ferguson and the mullahs in the Premiership and the Champions League I can’t see it happening. Internationals will be sidelined as the ‘boring'(to me anyway) marketing circus that is club football becomes all pervasive. Watch Rugby go the same way too. 🙁 🙁

    Agree, same is happening in a lot of sports. Although the system is different, when in Canada I used to watch the junior ice hockey matches where the 16-10 year olds were still trying to make a name for themselves, and the intensity of the game was much higher than that in the national league……………Next international, field the U21 team and see what happens or select players from the lower leagues. The super stars on £30K + per week have nothing more to give…..sack them!!

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 1:28 pm

    I think they should bring back Sir Alf Ramsay….

    …come to think of it – didn’t he get sacked as well? 😕

  • Mathew Gibson

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 3:32 pm

    i think its far to easy to blame Steve Mclaren if any other manager in the world had the job they would of picked the same players they need a reality shock dock their wages and make them play for their money just a bunch of jumped up pre madonnas anyway rant over!! up the boro!!!

  • Marcella Ross

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 6:27 pm

    well …………they were rubbish! No heart and soul at all. We may also have been put out of Euro 2008 but at least we went out in style!!!! 😉

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 7:08 pm
    quote Marcella:

    well …………they were rubbish! No heart and soul at all. We may also have been put out of Euro 2008 but at least we went out in style!!!! 😉

    tell me about it…had a banger of a sore head the next day….worst one yet 😮

    nik

  • Marcella Ross

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 7:11 pm

    yeah I bet …………….. I remember the text you sent me from the pub!!!!!!!!! 😀 😉

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 7:15 pm
    quote Marcella:

    yeah I bet …………….. I remember the text you sent me from the pub!!!!!!!!! 😀 😉

    :crazy: i dont 😳 😉

    nik

  • Marcella Ross

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 9:07 pm

    SCOTLAND DIES LAUGHING

    TRIBUTES are being paid to Scotland
    this morning after the entire
    country laughed itself to death.

    The alarm was first raised at around
    10pm last night as thousands of
    phone calls and text messages went
    unanswered.

    Small groups of volunteers from
    Berwick-Upon-Tweed and Carlisle
    ventured north just after midnight
    only to find houses full of dead
    people gathered around still blaring
    television sets.

    By dawn, as RAF helicopters flew
    over deserted city streets, it was
    clear that the whole country had
    suffered a catastrophic abdominal
    rupture.

    Wayne Hayes, a special constable
    from Northumberland, said: "We went
    into one house in Dunbar and found
    three men sitting on the sofa with
    huge smiles on their faces, still
    holding cans of 70 shilling. They
    seemed to be at peace."

    He added: "In a house near Edinburgh
    we found a man face down on the
    living room floor with his trousers
    and pants round his knees.

    "It seems he may have been showing
    his bare buttocks to the television
    when he keeled over."

    Roy Hobbs, a civil engineer from
    Northampton, said: "I got a call
    from my friend Ian in Stirling at
    about 9.50pm.

    "He was already laughing when I
    answered the phone, but after about
    25 minutes of the most vigorous and
    uncontrollable hilarity, everything
    suddenly went very quiet."

    Moving tributes are already being
    placed along the Scotland-England
    border with many mourners opting to
    leave a simple bag of chips or a
    deep fried bunch of flowers.

    England 2 Croatia 3

    😉 😉 😉

  • John Childs

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 10:29 pm
    quote Marcella:

    Moving tributes are already being
    placed along the Scotland-England
    border with many mourners opting to
    leave a simple bag of chips or a
    deep fried bunch of flowers.

    *rofl*

  • Brian Little

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 10:35 pm

    i was so seriously upset 😀 i was over come with emulsion

  • John Childs

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 10:51 pm

    The wheels have come off.


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  • Lynn Normington

    Member
    November 22, 2007 at 11:04 pm

    is this about football ???? I have no clue 🙄

    Lynn

  • John Singh

    Member
    November 23, 2007 at 1:00 am

    England – Probably the worst game I have ever seen
    A collection of School boys errors

    :worry:

    Scotland deserved to go through – it was an exciting game dominated by the Scots passion and agility – they were robbed by an incredible decision that sadly went against them

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    November 23, 2007 at 1:21 am

    Someone tonight suggested the following three as Manager, assistant and trainer: Steve Coppell, Alan Shearer and Stuart Pearce.

    Now that I would like to see. If those three couldn’t motivate a team of boys into men, then no-one can.

    Problem is, the FA will apoint someone in the near future instead of waiting until Euro2008 is over when several good managers will be available. Get Venables to do a caretaker’s job until then, I reckon. Maybe a few friendlies against Scotland, Ireland (x 2) and Wales next summer might give us all something to look forward to.

  • Marcella Ross

    Member
    November 23, 2007 at 9:33 am

    why are they looking at Jose as new manager?????? See I think that a national manager should be of that nationality, surely that’s got to be a good idea? How can a foreigner have the same passion for the team???? After all if they’re cr@p the still walk away with millions in the bank so they hardly have incentive!! 😮

  • George Elsmore

    Member
    November 23, 2007 at 9:48 am

    I agree Marcie a national side should have a manager of that nationality or at least British!

    A Jock in charge of the England team 😮

    scary thought!

  • Harry Cleary

    Member
    November 23, 2007 at 10:54 am

    I used to think that the manager had to be from the same country as the team……..but look what Jack Charlton did for us!!!…..now I think a manager just has to be GOOD and know what he/she is doing. Martin O’Neill would be the pick of the names mentioned for England. You need someone who is media-immune!

  • George Elsmore

    Member
    November 23, 2007 at 10:58 am

    He was snubbed once will he accept if offered????

  • Harry Cleary

    Member
    November 23, 2007 at 11:07 am

    I’m hearing on the electrical radio that he is gonna rule himself out later today…….maybe he has his eye on the Irish job!!!!! 😀 😀 😀 😀

  • Glenn Sharp

    Member
    November 23, 2007 at 1:01 pm

    I think that you go for the best man available…regardless of Nationality

    Jose’s the man for me…..He proved a Porto that he can build a team greater than the sum of it’s parts….I think that’s exactly what England needs right now

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