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    Posted by kev hoy graphics on January 11, 2004 at 8:54 pm

    Hi gang
    I am working on this projecting sign design & i am a little unhappy with it.
    I like the overall layout just feel it lacks something.
    I have decided to post it here for some fresh thoughts on it.

    Anyone? ๐Ÿ™„


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    sign-on replied 20 years, 5 months ago 20 Members · 31 Replies
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  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    January 11, 2004 at 9:01 pm

    i think your doing a damn good job on your own as it is mate…
    ok im gonna sound daft here, but why the nails? should it not be some kind of stitching or glue?
    ill keep having a look and see if i can think of anything that may help.. ๐Ÿ™„

  • Richard

    Member
    January 11, 2004 at 9:28 pm

    I think it looks fine as it is, has a nice traditional feel to it.

    One thing I did think was perhaps to introduce a darker shade on the top and one side (left? now I’m in Post Reply I can’t review the original image) to the pale line between the “frame” and the inline to give a feeling of three dimensionality to the sign. I’m sure there’s enough colours in the design to shuffle round a bit .

  • Rod Gray

    Member
    January 11, 2004 at 9:47 pm

    Kev everything is fine apart from the text.

    It needs to look older with larger letters at the beginning of each word etc. Maybe colour them differently too with some nice shading etc. Otherwise, i think it`s great.

    Rod

  • sign-on

    Member
    January 11, 2004 at 10:24 pm

    i think its great! (hot)

    my comments would be the same as mcrods though.. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    January 11, 2004 at 10:55 pm

    i am gonna go with rod on this one also mate.. i think if you manage to make the text a bit older looking or different font.. “more tradional” it should finish it nicely. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • Bill Dewison

    Member
    January 11, 2004 at 11:19 pm

    Great design. Humble opinion, but I’d add shading to the letters, or some sort of shaded border, just to add a bit more depth. The nails and the boot have some great shading.

    Played around a little, not saying this is ideal, just an example of the different shadings and stuff ๐Ÿ˜€

    Cheers, Dewi


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  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    January 12, 2004 at 2:27 pm

    Nice pic! Another Hot Scot!
    I like the design. The only things I would change are:
    Tighten up your kerning a wee bit on “Cobbler” and perhaps make the letters a darker brown.
    “The” needs to come down just a tad. I would leave the line & nails as they are.
    Rob, I worked at a cobbler’s for a while & they do use nails sometimes.
    Love- JILL

  • Steve Broughton

    Member
    January 12, 2004 at 4:13 pm
    quote Robert Lambie:

    ..
    ok im gonna sound daft here, but why the nails? should it not be some kind of stitching or glue?

    No not daft just young ๐Ÿ˜† go and ask yer dad, where do you think “Hobnail boots” come from, great design I really like it but like Jill says the kerning is too loose (Rob ๐Ÿ˜› ) and how about a cobblers hammer with the nails too.

  • Carrie Brown

    Member
    January 12, 2004 at 4:59 pm

    Yep, agree with Jill & Steve – kerning needs touching up ๐Ÿ˜€

    Didn’t know they used nails in boots either – thought it was glue & stitch – or if you leave them out over night the fairy people mend them … sort of like the tooth fairy!! Am I showing my young age here ๐Ÿ˜†

  • magpie

    Member
    January 12, 2004 at 5:10 pm

    The only suggestion I have to add, is to make the exposed innersole darker to give
    more form to the boot. Although this will ievitably mean either another colour of vinyl
    or reaccessing those already used.

    Good luck.


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  • Joe McNamara

    Member
    January 12, 2004 at 6:28 pm

    Here’s another slant on it….
    Had to move a few things around to try to balance it a bit.
    It’s a more traditional feel, in keeping with the trade it represents.
    It would need a bit more work on general balance and colours, but it’s quittin’ time and I’m off home. ๐Ÿ˜†
    Cheers
    Joe


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  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    January 12, 2004 at 7:32 pm

    Magpie
    Not sure if you have deleted your picture mate.. doesnโ€™t seem to load.
    If your having bother send me it and ill load it for you mate.

    quote :

    No not daft just young go and ask yer dad, where do you think “Hobnail boots” come from.

    Ok ok your one-up on me obeywan.. ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜† you wise old man you ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜‰
    oh yes and steve, em i agree with you and jill the kerning could be a bit tighter.. but not as tight as a scotsman eh ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Lorraine Buchan

    Member
    January 12, 2004 at 7:48 pm

    I can see magpies pic Rob!!

  • Nigel Fraser

    Member
    January 12, 2004 at 9:20 pm

    I can’t see it either (just a little red X) – maybe it’s in your cache of previously viewed pages Lorraine ? or maybe it’s some security setting i’ve got wrong at my end ??? who knows !

    I like Joes by the way – not sure about the yellow colour for little text though.

    Nigel

  • elitesigns

    Member
    January 12, 2004 at 9:23 pm

    Can’t see nothing either

    I like Joe’s vesion, except lose the yellow text.

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    January 12, 2004 at 10:03 pm

    spot on joe! like it and agree with nigel about the yellow text! cannot see magpies either!!

    Nicola

  • Joe McNamara

    Member
    January 12, 2004 at 10:27 pm

    The yellow text was an afterthought , just as I was going out the door.
    Now that I look at again, the yellow dosen’t sit right.
    Ah well, can’t be perfect all the time ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜ฅ
    Only joking, but I’m glad a couple of ye like it.
    Cheers
    Joe

  • magpie

    Member
    January 13, 2004 at 9:01 am

    Hi all, I’ve reattatched the image and it appears to be back now.
    Strange that, I wonder if the file got corrupted somehow?

    Ps I hope its worth the wait lol, here’s what I said originally…

    quote magpie:

    The only suggestion I have to add, is to make the exposed innersole darker to give
    more form to the boot. Although this will ievitably mean either another colour of vinyl
    or reaccessing those already used.

    Good luck.


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  • John Singh

    Member
    January 14, 2004 at 12:36 am

    Now I better tread carefully with this one
    Sorry if that sounded a little tacky

    I liked Joe’s rendering
    A little more traditional and ye olde type

    Would say more but I’m tied up at the moment and my tongue’s dry
    I know what your saying: “Poor sole! Heel have to go! Give him the boot!”
    Do you think I should see my Doctor, Martin?

    John

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    January 14, 2004 at 12:47 am

    The name Dr Martin is a sore point round these ways since they laid off 850 people and bogged off to China with their work. (I must mention that the Cobblers have just won their way to an FA cup clash with Man Utd! Whahay)

    Back to the sign, I just don’t like the boot. I know this isn’t very constructive. All the shoe repairers round here have stilletoes on their signs. Probably because thats what they spend all day repairing. I do like the more oldy worldy style lettering on Signjoe’s version though.

  • Tim Painter

    Member
    January 14, 2004 at 10:47 am

    Well I guess all boot manufacturers are doing the same.

    I noticed my nice new Timberlands ( Xmas present) are now made in Thailand they have always been made in the U.S.A.

    trouble is we all want a bargain…….

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    January 14, 2004 at 10:51 am

    I’ve always bought Dr martins footwear and haven’t minded paying the high prices because of the quality. No more though.

    Sorry, off topic…. ๐Ÿ˜•

  • kev hoy graphics

    Member
    January 18, 2004 at 2:01 pm

    Hi gang
    What can I say? I certainly didnโ€™t expect all these replies. Brilliant. I mean that. ๐Ÿ˜‰
    I have not been online over the last week or so. I had some problems with my connection. I had someone in to look at it, so that hopefully shouldnโ€™t be an issue anymore. ๐Ÿ˜€
    I have taken onboard the comments and I agree! The text should be closer and the whole feel to it โ€œa bit olderโ€. Thank you dewi, magpie & signjoe for taking the time to explain using images. Brill! What a great forum this is!

    Well I am going to now go and see what I can come up with keeping in mind all the comments. Hopefully I should come up with a finished article today or tomorrow. ๐Ÿ˜›

  • kev hoy graphics

    Member
    January 18, 2004 at 10:53 pm

    ok had a play with this & took on all your suggestions.
    what do you think now?


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  • AaSk4Stickers

    Member
    January 19, 2004 at 11:10 am

    Bloody brilliant!

    Alan

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    January 19, 2004 at 1:18 pm

    Hi Kev
    Nice to see the progression.
    1 final suggestion….
    could you give the copy a black outline
    to “tie it in” with the shoe?
    (no pun intended)
    Love-JILL
    Good Job! ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • Nigel Fraser

    Member
    January 19, 2004 at 5:55 pm

    I think you’ve got that sussed now Kev ๐Ÿ˜€ It looks great to me, how is it going to be made – what materials etc ?

    Nigel

  • F. Skierk

    Member
    January 19, 2004 at 6:50 pm

    now that is smart! wish i could do that.
    what software do you use kev?

  • Bill Dewison

    Member
    January 19, 2004 at 10:28 pm

    Nice one Kev ๐Ÿ˜€ Fantastic design. Echoing Sally really, what software do you use?

    Cheers, Dewi

  • kev hoy graphics

    Member
    January 20, 2004 at 8:50 pm

    Thanks for the replies!
    Jill I may do that when I finally get round to making this. Have to speak with customer first. Thanks!

    Itโ€™s going to be a projecting sign only, double sided. Main sign already done. The shop is a mixture of key cutting, shoe repairs that kind of thing. But wants to renew the cobbler projector.
    Itโ€™s non-illuminated and will slide into an existing frame. Easy done.
    The only thing that may need changed is the border. The design includes the border were that maybe overlapped by the existing frame or may not look right as it has a frame then the face shows a frame also?

    The software I use is signlab 5. Used it for some time now. The image shown is basically a build up of layers. None are welded yet, thatโ€™s why I didnโ€™t upload the image โ€œcut-fileโ€ as itโ€™s all in bits at the moment. I donโ€™t weld anything until i am happy with finished article.
    I would recommend anyone to try it.

    Again thanks everyone. With the amount of replies I have got. I can see this forum being a great tool for everyone.

    Well done rob! ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • sign-on

    Member
    January 21, 2004 at 12:47 am

    Excellent work kev. I know its cut vinyl but i would never have thought this sort of thing could be achieved.

    Please, keeping showing us your work, i would love to see a demo on work like this. ๐Ÿ˜›

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