my first attempt at vinyl wrapping comments?

[Sam Schofield]

sorry its not letting upload the pic!

[Michael Szwacki]

I’m always saying that you always getting what you paying for 🙂
£8 for meter of matt black I’ve never heard about that cheap vehicle wrapping vinyl specially matt black!! and I wouldn’t buy it. Get yourself 3M or at least Hexis and you will be amazed. Saying that bear in mind that matt wrap is one of the most difficult but why making things more complicated and using cheap vinyl. Just my 2 pennies.

Mike

[Matty Goodwin]

Hi Sam

Fair play for giving it a go, a lot are too scared to attempt a wrap!

I agree with Mike to an extent, matt black isn’t the easiest to work with as it scratches/discolours pretty easily. Saying that the VWS1 is descent material to handle once an experienced fitter. £8 a meter is a good price depending on the width. I’ve wrapped the best part of 200+ vehicles with this and had no come backs. As long as it’s fitted correctly and post heated it shouldn’t be an issue.

A lot of replies will come in saying do a wrapping coarse. This is the only way you’ll get to learn what techniques are best and well worth the money.

Having a go yourself is great but it won’t earn you money as a lot of vinyl will be wasted. Go on a coarse and learn using ‘their’ vinyl. The knowledge you will pick up will give you a better understanding of vinyl and what you can/can’t do with it.

It would still be good to see you attempt though if you can upload it.

As Mike quite rightly said, there are better vinyls out there but for a first attempt don’t go spending £20-30 per meter as you WILL make mistakes and loose a lot of money!

Good luck and keep on practising.

Matt

[Sam Schofield]

Thanks for the reply guy.

Yeah just after I posted, made a phone call to the guy who tout me to make signs, he told me that the Roland course is good, so checked it out and at 450+vat for 2days I thought was a bargain! Anyone know about this course? I’ve looked into 3m vinyl, but I don’t fancy spending £21 p/m at my ability

The vinyl I was using was 1500mm wide

But I’m trying to do this in a cold garage and early I had completed half the bonnet and as I pull the vinyl over the front of the bonnet it snapped! (alot of anger followed!) I think my work conditions aint good enough

I will try to upload the photo again tomorrow, any help with that would be good as it make no sense why it isn’t uploading

[Matty Goodwin]

Sam, Sam, Sam…..

A bonnet can be a hard place to start, especially on your on and with VWS.

Walk before you can run mate.

Im sure someone will mention James Deacon before long. If you can, get on his coarse. Top bloke and you’ll learn loads. (Don’t tell him I said that!)

[Gary Birch]

Doing it in a cold garage will make this a lot harder than it should be, I don’t know the KPMF material but I should imagine that is why the vinyl became brittle.

Doing it single handed won’t help either. I’m not saying that it can’t be done single handed but it would be easier for a novice to have another pair of hands to assist.

We have been on the Roland course and would recommend it.

Cheers

Gary

[Chris Windebank]

I think James is running the wrap course for APA. Buy a roll of film and get a free 2 day wrap course

[Sam Schofield]

this was my attempt

I know but im not one to shy away! i just give it a go!

ok looks like the Roland wrapping course is the one, ill book it for sometime next month, if its not fully booked,

what would you suggest for a good vinyl for me to practice with?

next weekend im going to just do small thing like mirriors trim ect…get more of a feel for it.

thanks for all the replys! what do you think of my first half a door…?[/img]

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[Matty Goodwin]

Looks pretty neat Sam.

Again, fair play to you mate!

There’s a link on here to get a free meter of Avery Supreme material. This is great stuff to use, so get the free meter and keep practicing!

(It’s a great feeling looking at your first wrap, ain’t it!)

[Sam Schofield]

Yeah, all i want is to finish now! 🙂

thanks for all the comments guy ill probably post again when ive done the course and finished my car 🙂

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[Craig Ross]

No-one can ever knock anyone for giving something ago. Everyone has to start somewhere…

I still need to do a wrapping course, maybe once the UKSG Truck is on the road…

[Mo Gillis-Coates]

well done fella, I’m doing my jeep in matt black at the moment, its tough but a great finish when you get it right, even more so as I have chosen to work with a non conformable to see how it works with the contours.

Bonnet wrap advice…… remove the insulation under the bonnet if any, warm up the bonnet using the engine…. OR do what I did, do it on a screaming hot day, the black attracts the heat and 2 of us stretched it over the bonnet and it almost melted itself on…lol

[Gavin MacMillan]

Mo I can see no purpose to what you are saying to do. From various posts you have made I’m really unsure about your wrapping experience as your posts seem to range from wrapping a connect in a day and a bonnet in 30minutes to this kind of post that to me would go against the experience I felt you had from previous posts

[Sam Schofield]

ok, ill have a look for that

yeah even though it was minimal amount im happy with it.

you dont know any good 3m suppliers? im going to see if i can get a cheeky sample?

[Gary Birch]

William Smiths are 3m stockists 01833 690305

Cheers

Gary

[Sam Schofield]

Thanks for that just gave them a call, so ill be receiving my free sample tomorrow! result!

[Steve Seddon]

looks neat ive been down that road with the chep wrapping, ive gone to hexis and its miles better and easier, ive just done a roof and bonnet today with hexis and i did it quicker than i did using the cheap stuff on a roof

[Karl Williams]

Sam, nice job for your first attempt. Don’t worry about doing it quick. Take your time because it isn’t as easy as it looks mate. As for wrapping outside on a red hot day………..I shouldn’t do that if I were you. All the best mate and congrats on a good start! 😉

[Sam Schofield]

thanks for the comments guys, it was in a garage but i pushed it out for the photo 🙂 i got my sample from 3M, its fact im amazed! i used the a4 sample on the most difficult part of a van i could find and it was incredible! and the way it reacted with a heat gun was great! 🙂 i spent about an hour stretching it and heating it up with no issues! i could stretch it to twice its size and it would still go back! expensive! but you definitely get what you pay for.

im planning to wrap my car red now rather than matte black, safer and less money! ill upload photos of it when its complete, before and after photos

thanks sam

[Martin Pearson]

Sam you say it’s expensive but compared to what???
If your looking to change the colour of a car then your only other option would be to get it sprayed and a decent spray job won’t come cheap.

[Sam Schofield]

martin,
i meant the price difference between matte black and gloss red, as its going to be my first whole wrap, i dont want to go spending more money on vinyl than i have too at this stage, im planning to sell this car soon aswell so my next car will be getting more money spent on it 🙂

[Chris Foster]

Remember that if you are planning on selling the car after wrapping it you may limit your market. Not all people (myself included) would necessarily buy a car that is wrapped. On the other hand and totally contradicting what I have just said I’ve just sold my van and Audi S4 which were both wrapped (matt black) with ease!

Just take loads of photos during the process with date stamps so people can see what it was like before….

[Daniel Evans]

Nice work on the door all very exiting, i’m starting to get into wrapping just like yourself, I’ve booked onto a course at the end of the month and i can’t wait to get started.

I’ve tried with some dodgy material mactac 8300 or something like that but it was impossible and a waste of time, and looking at the price of the good stuff, i’m thinking by the time i get any good, i would of gone through quite a bit of material which would be more expensive than the course.

[Sam Schofield]

Yeah no worries ive considered this, my cars not worth anything any way now…people dont seem to want to spend the money on a 4.4 v8 pah! its the main reason i bought it! haha
i was going to book myself on a course but ive been too busy, just recently one a contract with my local town center management (cant complain really) so its a matter of finding time at the moment, good luck with the course which one did you go for? let me know if its any good?
sam

[Martin Pearson]

Sam if you read through the posts about wrapping courses most of the suppliers that do them get good write up’s. Can’t remember who but someone on the forum who does a lot of wrapping said you are best off deciding on which material supplier you are going to use for the majority of your work and then do their course so your working with the film you will be using most.

[Karl Williams]

quote Daniel Evans:

Nice work on the door all very exiting, i’m starting to get into wrapping just like yourself, I’ve booked onto a course at the end of the month and i can’t wait to get started.

I’ve tried with some dodgy material mactac 8300 or something like that but it was impossible and a waste of time, and looking at the price of the good stuff, i’m thinking by the time i get any good, i would of gone through quite a bit of material which would be more expensive than the course.

Why did you try and wrap with Mactac 8300 Danel? It’s not a wrap vinyl and wont stay in a recess. It’s only a budget vinyl.

[Jim Airey]

hi sam, good job so far mate but temp is defo against you there mate cold and wrapping should never be used in the samw sentence mate!!! kpmf`s material is good material once you get your head round it! keep it warm and it will go where you want it!!!! dont go with anything with airflow or bubble free mate it dont stick to good i have found been wrapping cars since 1999 but it wasnt really known about then and doing most in calendered polymeric or cast! did grafity-p`s course in 2006 through adwraps and it was awesome tought me a new way to lay vinyl for the better to! not the cheapest but defo the best!!!!!
good luck with the car!!!!

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