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  • Mounting Built Up lettering

    Posted by Warren Beard on January 24, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    Hi All

    Doing my first built up job and just received the order, as they offered free mounting of the letters on to the sign tray I agreed for them to mount the letters for me. My problem (or question) is should there be a gap between the letters and the tray?

    The tray has a 30mm return and the letters are 30mm deep, they have mounted the letters nearly 20mm off the tray’s surface. I was expecting it to be flush against it 😕

    Is this correct or normal?

    cheers

    Warren

    John Harding replied 14 years, 3 months ago 8 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Richard Urquhart

    Member
    January 24, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    I’m not sure if there is a standard way, but I would like to see them mounted with just a 5mm gap as in the ones I posted a while back, 20mm is way off the face of the tray. Rich

  • Kevin Flowers

    Member
    January 24, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    Warren
    does depend on the type of stand offs used, screw ons do require a bit more clearance.

    Kev

  • Gordon Jones

    Member
    January 24, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    Warren, it sounds like they have used Medium metal locators on bridges, I would say the standard way would be stood off 15/20mm.

    If you had them flush they would generally use a studded rod through the tray with a nut at the back.

    You really should specify what you want.

  • James Martin

    Member
    January 24, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    Who done them for you?

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    January 24, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    if they are fixed with nylon or metal locator’s then ide expect them to be around 10-15mm from the face mate. especially metal fixings because you have to be able to tighten the studs/fixings with your fingers/spanner.

    It maybe just me, but i wouldnt expect to use threaded rods unless mounting onto rough uneven brick work, with liquid fixings.
    OR if… like you have been given a tray with letters fixed to the face but stipulating a flush contact finish. then yes, some nuts on the rear to fix the rods.
    I can see why rods are used with LED’s as they would not create shadows with the LED’s like bridges and locator’s would. but getting access to the back of the surface its being mounted on isnt always possible, nor is being able to use a liquid fixing.

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    January 24, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    I think some of you have mis read Warrens post, they are built up letters, not flat cut,
    so should be fixed either flush, or with a slight gap, as default

    but depends on the effect you are looking for,

    btw are they illuminated Warren?

    Peter

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    January 24, 2010 at 11:08 pm

    Hi guys

    They are not illuminated and have a rod attached to the back which goes through the tray and is fixed with a small bolt, they have put a few plastic spacers behind the letters to make them stand out this far and that’s the reason I asked. I don’t think it will be a problem to remove them and remove the spacers so it sits flush but is now going to take twice as long as I have to remove them first and will also have to cut down the rods after as they will be too long as the tray only has 30mm returns.

    Maybe it is a learning experience but this is not the first time something like this has happened with these guys, if it is something I am suppose to specify then they should have asked me how I wanted it and not make the decision themselves and do what ever they wanted to do.

    What do you think?

    Warren

  • John Harding

    Member
    January 25, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    Hi warren

    Learning curve I think, you accepted the offer of free mounting but did not specify a stand off amount, so in my opinion they have done the right thing ie gone with a big stand off which you can reduce if required, the other way around if they had left a small standoff and you wanted large you cannot increase the length of the rod if already cut to size.

    Its not a disaster just a bit of time & aggro

    John

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