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  • Magic Touch shirt and mug stuff

    Posted by Shane Drew on November 11, 2008 at 7:50 am

    Hi friends,

    I’ve been approached by a client interested in getting promotional stuff like mugs and mouse mats, as well as shirts with reflective material.

    At the sign show, I saw the Magic Touch system, and must confess I was fairly impressed.

    I believe its a UK based company.

    Can anyone that uses it give me an idea what it is like. Its not cheap to get into here, but not an expensive investment. Thinking it may be something that I can offer for my regular clients and then build the business up so that it may give my son a part time job.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated.

    Seen the you tube videos, looks the bees knees…..

    Alan Drury replied 15 years, 7 months ago 9 Members · 14 Replies
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  • John Thomson

    Member
    November 11, 2008 at 8:44 am

    Hi Shane,

    i looked at it at Sign UK and also recently at their road show.it look good…the Wow pare in particular but from what I have read the Magic touch guys make it look easy.

    What are you intending producing? Just t shirts? Mugs and mats can be doe using dye sublimation quite easily/cheaply.

    John

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    November 11, 2008 at 8:57 am

    Thanks John,

    Mugs and Mats is basically the enquiry.

    Reflective text on Hi Vis vests is something that I get asked about a lot, seeing as I’m around transport companies everyday.

    I watched them do t shirts at the show. Fairly impressive reults

  • John Thomson

    Member
    November 11, 2008 at 9:14 am

    I got a sample shirt at Sign UK…..it has washed and lasted well………the ‘self weeding’ is great although there is a skill in designing something that takes full advantage of this.

    I would think dye sub is easier/cheaper for mugs/mats etc……reflective garment vinyl can simply be heat pressed onto hi viz ……..and you can dye sub in full colour straight onto hi viz

    john

  • Paul Humble

    Member
    November 11, 2008 at 9:24 am

    The sample shirt you got John will very likely be using the WoW 7.1 paper (picture of a linear Porsche?).

    I tried a sample pack of the 7.1 self weeding paper and found it to be far too time consuming to make it viable to offer to customers. For the extra time it takes the customer just wouldnt pay the difference that I would need to charge.

    The OBM 5.6 is a good laser transfer paper, nice and this so not to give a feel on the teeshirt that is too rubbery.

    Xpres do a good reflective vinyl which is supposedly ideal on Hi Vis, but ive never used it so cant really comment too much as I only had a small sample.

    Have a look at Xpres’ website before making a decision.

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    November 11, 2008 at 9:54 am

    Xpres do do reflective garment vinyl, but only in 1m lengths (unless you buy a 5 or 10m roll). so just be aware that if you order 3m, you’ll get individually cut metre lengths.

    i buy it from grafityp now, cheaper too. reflexite i think it’s called.

    re magic touch, the stuff shown here is done via magic touch, i went with the A4 printer, but in hindsight i shoulda spent the extra for the A3 (about 5x the cost!) as i can see why A3 would be so much more useful in certain circumstances.

    Hugh


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  • Shane Drew

    Member
    November 11, 2008 at 10:43 am

    😮 wow, thanks for the replies friends. Head is swimming now 😕

    I don’t think xpres is an option for me in Oz, not sure what obm5.6 is either?

    I have a colour laser at work, and that is what originally attracted me to the system.

    When you say dye sub John, are you referring to the simple print and heat method? or another brand or method?

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    November 11, 2008 at 10:53 am
    quote Shane Drew:

    😮 wow, thanks for the replies friends. Head is swimming now 😕

    I don’t think xpres is an option for me in Oz, not sure what obm5.6 is either?

    I have a colour laser at work, and that is what originally attracted me to the system.

    When you say dye sub John, are you referring to the simple print and heat method? or another brand or method?

    obm and ttc are magic touch’s most common transfer papers, i’d imagine. obm for darks, ttc for light garments, mouse pads etc.

    i use a magic touch OKI C5600, temps etc are modified i believe, i wouldn’t want to guess how successful it might be on other printers.

    cheers.
    Hugh

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    November 11, 2008 at 11:13 am
    quote Hugh Potter:

    obm and ttc are magic touch’s most common transfer papers, i’d imagine. obm for darks, ttc for light garments, mouse pads etc.

    i use a magic touch OKI C5600, temps etc are modified i believe, i wouldn’t want to guess how successful it might be on other printers.

    Cheers.
    Hugh

    Thanks Hugh.

    I’m going over for a demo next week, so I’ll ask the question anyway.
    The promotion here is heavily based around using what you have, and not needing to buy more printers etc. I’ll check that out anyway. They have a transfer paper for wide format printers, colour lasers and inkjet they tell me. They had a standard printer on their stand, although it was not printing…. may have been for effect 😉

    Cheers
    Shane

  • Gordon Ellis

    Member
    November 11, 2008 at 11:41 am

    IMO I’m not keen on the magic touch papers used in their modified Oki 5600 printer. For mugs best bet I find Dye Sub with the special paper. It is also a lot cheaper running costs and better results. I find the Magic Touch system for mugs tends to scrape off after a while. With dye sub you don’t even feel the transfer because it penetrates as a gas below the glaze. As for T shirts which is my main business Xpres transfer papers in an normal inkjet. Providing they are washed correctly the transfers are fine, but you can’t beat the T Shirts vinyl for dark shirts. Weeding is a bit of a pain.

    Gordon

  • John Gregson

    Member
    November 11, 2008 at 11:50 am

    Hi Shane,
    Make sure you get it in writing that these papers can be used in any colour laser printer as I’ve got an expensive paper weight now that resembles a Konica Minolta laser Printer. 😕

  • Steve Underhill

    Member
    November 11, 2008 at 12:01 pm

    I would say Xpres T shirt dark transfers are the worst I have used, rubbery, and unbelievably sticky backing which just isnt necessary,
    Targets stuff is better I find, and sublimation transfers.

  • Mark Jahn

    Member
    November 11, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    Have you got a link for the Target stuff Steve. I’m always disappointed with the dark transfer paper I use – the black of the T Shirt always tends to come through on the unprinted white section of my prints.

  • Steve Underhill

    Member
    November 11, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    I have only had samples sent to me by target never bought them yet as Im still on a box of subli transfers but they will send samples of light/dark to you if you give them a ring

  • Alan Drury

    Member
    November 11, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    I’ve use magic Touch laser papers for colour decoration on white shirts and that is fine. The computer cut reflective film I’ve used came from Victory also works well but was difficult to cut compared to their normal garment film, for mugs as good as the Magic Touch stuff is the laser paper is no where near as good as dye sub.
    Alan D

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