Looking for a specific type of garment vinyl

[Chris Wool]

thinnest i know is the target premium. good gear

[Liam Pattison]

Hi Chris,

thanks for that, that’s what i’m using funnily enough. I remember seeing one at the sign show from grafityp which was very textured, i quite liked the finish to it. (not flock) I’ve got their samples but can’t seem to see the same one in there. Should have wrote it down.

Cheers

Liam

[Jason Bagladi]

You wont get a vinyl to get close to a screen printed finish. The best option I have seen is the Magic Touch WoW product which uses a colour laser printer for the image.

[Liam Pattison]

quote Jason Bagladi:

You wont get a vinyl to get close to a screen printed finish. The best option I have seen is the Magic Touch WoW product which uses a colour laser printer for the image.

So this is sublimation? I hope to expand into this eventually

thanks

Liam

[Jason Bagladi]

No, not sublimation. The WoW product can be printed onto light or dark garments from cotton through to leather and all kinds of other materials.

Garment sublimation is limited to polyester/nylon based materials and is only really suitable for light coloured materials

[Liam Pattison]

Thanks for that Jason, so i read on here, somebody said to use the wow paper you would need a swing away press specificaly, can you explain why that is?

Thanks

Liam

[Jason Bagladi]

You should get away with a clam press as long as it gets to the required temp of about 170 deg C from memory and needs high pressure.

[Barbara Eden]

Hi Liam. The only thing i can think of that’s a little bit different are the Ink Sheets sold by Europa Leisure ( also known as Jarin Industries, who make the Europa heat presses).

The sheets are A2 I think, and are cut on a plotter. They have a web site, not a lot of info’ on it, but they’re very helpful on the phone.

Barbara

[Chris Wool]

quote Liam Pattison:

Thanks for that Jason, so i read on here, somebody said to use the wow paper you would need a swing away press specificaly, can you explain why that is?

Thanks

Liam

they say you need a swing away cos you will keep burning your knuckles when lining up the prints (masks).
i had a good look at the wow but decided it was to much hassle for regular use. (+ i did not like there attitude).

chris

[Liam Pattison]

Thanks Jason for explaining that. Thank you Barbara, i think i need to get more samples from everywhere i can as i haven’t experimented much yet.

I looked at the video on the website Chris for the wow stuff. I don’t think i’ve got the printing facilities for that at the moment. It looks a little expensive at £3 something a print.

So am i correct in thinking using the release paper stuff gives you a matt effect to the transfer paper? Does it also protect the upper platen from any ink that might get on it? Are these the functions of it? (Just making sure i’ve got everything right).

Are there any other tips or tricks for getting different finishes or anything you can think of.

Thanks

Liam

[Alan Drury]

I use Target’s Premium too. Victory have a product called Easymark which I used to use alot. It was very thin, cut well and did take on the garments texture, I changed because you could not iron over it, basically I felt that the Premium would be more durable.
Alan D

[Nigel Pugh]

quote Liam Pattison:

Hi Chris,

thanks for that, that’s what i’m using funnily enough. I remember seeing one at the sign show from grafityp which was very textured, i quite liked the finish to it. (not flock) I’ve got their samples but can’t seem to see the same one in there. Should have wrote it down.

Cheers

Liam

Liam would it be the new 3D Expedi, this is the material that "puffs up" when heat pressed.

[Darren Lawlor]

Hi Liam,

We have being travelling from show to show and supplier to supplier seeking the holy grail of what you are seeking but to no avail. To be honest, we haven’t even come close.

The WOW system has an excellent finish but Oh my god, what an effort to achieve a print. It really is a whole lot of effort and one that I for one wouldn’t be interested in. I personally think that the WOW system and direct to garment systems are more suited to retail premises and over the counter type situations where the end of line customer is willing to pay a little more for that tee shirt with a picture of there favourite pet sitting on there sons chest.

We run the Roland Versacamms and have tried lots of variations of transfer material and so far they have all felt heavy to the touch and a little bit cheap looking especially when you are doing larger prints.

The finish from the sublimation system is very appealing but as mentioned before in this thread, it is limited to light colour garments which are either made from polyester or at least have a polyester coating.

I have now found that the best way to achieve a half decent finish is to get someone to screen print the transfers and then heat press them on. I can appreciate that this is no good when it comes to photographs and 4 colour process printing.

Also, Target have promised me that they are sending me out another product, Solutions I think was the name but I will wait and see. I am using their product called Colorprint at the moment but it can be very heavy.

I suppose what I am trying to say is that I am still really on the look out for that perfect transfer material and if you find it PLEASE let us know.

Regards,

Darren.

[Liam Pattison]

quote Nigel Pugh – Grafityp:

quote Liam Pattison:

Hi Chris,

thanks for that, that’s what i’m using funnily enough. I remember seeing one at the sign show from grafityp which was very textured, i quite liked the finish to it. (not flock) I’ve got their samples but can’t seem to see the same one in there. Should have wrote it down.

Cheers

Liam

Liam would it be the new 3D Expedi, this is the material that “puffs up” when heat pressed.

Nigel,
it may be that one i am thinking of, it was pressed onto thicker material in the fabric sample booklet you had, any chance of a sample there mate?

P.s was it you who i met briefly on way into the show on the Tuesday? or someone from grafityp matching the same discription?

Thanks

Liam

[Liam Pattison]

quote Darren Lawlor:

Hi Liam,

We have being travelling from show to show and supplier to supplier seeking the holy grail of what you are seeking but to no avail. To be honest, we haven’t even come close.

The WOW system has an excellent finish but Oh my god, what an effort to achieve a print. It really is a whole lot of effort and one that I for one wouldn’t be interested in. I personally think that the WOW system and direct to garment systems are more suited to retail premises and over the counter type situations where the end of line customer is willing to pay a little more for that tee shirt with a picture of there favourite pet sitting on there sons chest.

We run the Roland Versacamms and have tried lots of variations of transfer material and so far they have all felt heavy to the touch and a little bit cheap looking especially when you are doing larger prints.

The finish from the sublimation system is very appealing but as mentioned before in this thread, it is limited to light colour garments which are either made from polyester or at least have a polyester coating.

I have now found that the best way to achieve a half decent finish is to get someone to screen print the transfers and then heat press them on. I can appreciate that this is no good when it comes to photographs and 4 colour process printing.

Also, Target have promised me that they are sending me out another product, Solutions I think was the name but I will wait and see. I am using their product called Colorprint at the moment but it can be very heavy.

I suppose what I am trying to say is that I am still really on the look out for that perfect transfer material and if you find it PLEASE let us know.

Regards,

Darren.

I thought it might be the holy grail, was going to use the same words myself. Thanks for the info. Companies are probably tying very hard to develop a product like this

cheers

Liam

[Liam Pattison]

quote Alan Drury:

I use Target’s Premium too. Victory have a product called Easymark which I used to use alot. It was very thin, cut well and did take on the garments texture, I changed because you could not iron over it, basically I felt that the Premium would be more durable.
Alan D

I will try this one out, thanks Alan

Liam

[Nigel Pugh]

Liam our product manager Sue Kirkwood has your contact details from the show and will get in touch to try and identify the material.

Oh and yes t’was me you bumped into, walking past Wetherspoons at the time I think.

[Liam Pattison]

quote Nigel Pugh – Grafityp:

Liam our product manager Sue Kirkwood has your contact details from the show and will get in touch to try and identify the material.

Oh and yes t’was me you bumped into, walking past Wetherspoons at the time I think.

Thanks for that Nigel,

Liam

[Lorraine Clinch]

Liam, the garment vinyls designed for nylon are very thin, you can see the weave of the material underneath it. I use it a lot, on poly-cotton and nylon. I can’t remember the name, I ordered it from Grafityp ages ago, I expect Nigel could perhaps take a look at my account, and confirm the name…

[Liam Pattison]

quote Lorraine Clinch:

Liam, the garment vinyls designed for nylon are very thin, you can see the weave of the material underneath it. I use it a lot, on poly-cotton and nylon. I can’t remember the name, I ordered it from Grafityp ages ago, I expect Nigel could perhaps take a look at my account, and confirm the name…

Thanks Lorraine,
think i’ve got a sample of the nylon one. I’m going to have a go with some primark t-shirts this afternoon, so i will experiment with that one.

Great service from Sue Kirkwood at Grafityp who rang me up to go through the films as well.

thanks

Liam

[Stephen Murray1]

Hi Liam,

Try these guys for your tshirts. Good Prices.

http://www.polo-shirts.co.uk/

http://www.mdpsupplies.co.uk/garments.asp

Cheers

Steve

[Liam Pattison]

quote Stephen Murray1:

Hi Liam,

Try these guys for your tshirts. Good Prices.

http://www.polo-shirts.co.uk/

http://www.mdpsupplies.co.uk/garments.asp

Cheers

Steve

Thanks Steve,
was going to ask this question actually. I did try doing a search through the archives here and there is a couple of suppliers i need to open accounts with.

Plus i can suggest this one myself, as i haven’t seen it mentioned here-

http://absoluteapparel.co.uk

recommended to me by a friend, but haven’t used them yet, so if anybody has and could let me know what they think i would appreciate it

thanks again

Liam