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    Posted by Peter Munday on October 14, 2004 at 5:15 pm

    I have just invested many hundreds of pounds on dye sumblimation equipment (oogle) and yesterday I got my first enqiuery 😀 (woo Hoo!)
    5 or 10 shirts with full colour logo on. The customer would like to see the quality of the T’s, and having none in stock yet, I rush to the nearest store and buy a dozen. I leave a sample with my client ( who is acting as a middle man) and today I’m told to go and see him regarding the shirt order, When I get there he tells me the client only want’s one shirt and he’s going to supply his own, 😮 (hot) . I need to know if I’m doing the right thing, or am I getting into more than I need right now. :headbang2:

    Peter Munday replied 19 years, 7 months ago 8 Members · 11 Replies
  • 11 Replies
  • CTS

    Member
    October 14, 2004 at 5:56 pm

    we do a lot of sublimation garments,mugs etc
    and now have got a bulk ink system on our 1290 Epson
    we find it a good add-on to the cad-cut and screen printing
    but doubt it would support us on its own whilst it does earn money
    hang in there!
    Dave

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    October 14, 2004 at 5:57 pm

    I’d tell the middleman that since the guy is so proficient,
    he can print his own shirt with an iron-on kit from Staples.
    I’m sure that this client will provide you with his own
    Microsoft Word artwork as well.

    You’ve already invested lots of $$ in your equipment,
    don’t you think that this guy is a waste of your time?
    Hopefully you’ll be getting better clients soon.

    In the meantime, take the shirts that you bought and
    print a kick-ass logo for your comapny on them.
    Get local teens to wear them to school or wherever
    they congregate….that ought to bring in some business!

    Love….Jill

  • Kevin.Beck

    Member
    October 14, 2004 at 7:01 pm

    congrates, you`ve just encountered your first @rseole.

    Are you printing on to subpaper, then contour cutting around it ( opus system)

    or just printing onto paper then transferring the image to the shirts.

    if its the latter, then you`ll need special tee shirts that are coated in polyester. so supplying his own won`t do..

    I hate working for the “middleman”. Because of the distance between the end user and the production team, information often gets lost or altered. Make sure you get all orders written down in black and white, then if there’s any mistakes, the person responsibly can be easy recognized.

    I got rid of my last “I`ll get the orders, you just print them” Entrepreneur, there was too many mistake. He was always saying it was our fault. He used to give his orders on the back of old envelopes…..

  • Kevin.Beck

    Member
    October 14, 2004 at 7:05 pm
    quote :

    and today I’m told to go and see him regarding the shirt order,

    I missed this one.

    unless you`re working from home, tell him to get off his @rse and come to you.

    You`ve got the equipment. All he`s got is a cheapster for a client. They are 2 a penny..

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    October 14, 2004 at 10:33 pm

    You’ll need to find some decent customers.

    Actually – Don’t worry, the world is full of these types, the trick is spotting them straight away, dealing with them in an efficient manner, then moving onto more lucrative work. There are as many lucrative jobs out there as there are timewasters – try to eliminate the timewasters as politely as possible without causing any offence. 😀

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    October 14, 2004 at 10:58 pm

    we did work like this way back when i was starting out..
    we found that looking for the public to give orders could and was in most cases a waste of time. what we made from a couple t-shirts was simply not enough when all the time on it was added up. we could be making more with signs..
    long runs is were the money is obviously and also customers that are wanting giove away stuff.. no real need for perfection or quality on the product.
    with this in mind.. we approached night clubs, large car washes e.g. IMO
    , radio stations and the like…
    our method of printing was different from what i see on the go today, but i would say it was a a cheaper and quicker way of printing one colour.

    with the night clubs we would print the clubs logos on THongs & boxer shorts, t-shirts etc.. the DJ would have contests and give them away to winners… pubs done the same on quiz nights.. all very cheap garments and any little imperfections in printing was never an issue.
    car washes would ask for printed clothes and t-shirts..
    pay for the most expensive car wash and you got a cloth with their logo on it to clean the inside of your window free…
    radio staions was the same as nightclubs… the list goes on and on..

    the priblem is.. do you have time to do it or can you get sales staff in.. ide say dont use the sales staff unless on comission only based on paid for orders!
    you can make up a nice flyer and fax it to clubs etc in the yellow pages.. then call them the next day asking did they get it and what they thought. that way your not leaving your desk and your ontop of it…

    just some thoughts on this.. 🙄

  • John Singh

    Member
    October 14, 2004 at 11:10 pm

    He’s the first customer (time waster)
    Should be more worthwhile customers on the way
    As Phill says: Try to quickly establish time wasters and just as quickly lose ’em
    But as Dave says ‘Hang in there’
    Presume this is an add on and not your main source of work

    John

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    October 14, 2004 at 11:31 pm

    experience is all, and we all gain from experience. Last week we were asked to quote for an A board, got the “art work” e mailed prices etc.
    so we quoted and advised on an appropriate sign. next thing got a request to evaluate the site for the A board, So did I Follow it up?
    Trouble is the boss wants a sign, asks minion to get quotes, he/she spends all day calling sign firms from the yellow pages to get quote. then he/she gets the best price saves 10 quid but costs the firm about a hundred quid in time spent Dosnt make anybody better off.

  • Kevin.Beck

    Member
    October 15, 2004 at 6:31 am

    Rob

    quote :

    our method of printing was different from what i see on the go today, but i would say it was a a cheaper and quicker way of printing one colour.

    so whats the method – screen printing??

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    October 15, 2004 at 9:15 am

    if i say im not sure exactly what it is called becky will you laugh at me 😳 :lol1: :lol1:

    nah, i honestly dont know or should say remember the method but the machine we still have in some garage i think. 😕
    from memory it was like a photo copier that took a photo and spat out ex-amount of sheets of paper with what only ever appeared to be black on the paper. you then taped the paper face down onto say a t-chirt and pulled heat press down… 20 secs and lift and it had left the picture image on the shirt.
    the shirts had to have a high amount of polyester in them (i think) to make the prints last a life time but other materials could be used. the prints could or never seemed to be able to be washed out. nor could you feel them on the surface
    you could print using this same thod onto brass, allumnium etc..
    this was something we did regular.. put peaople photographs onto brass mounted on wood frames.. very effective…
    we bought the machine and other kit but i think it was something to do with x-press i could be wrong. i dont know if it is still on the go though…
    we bought encapsulators and banner printing “Paper” macines a metre wide… now being 17 years ago must have been one of the first wide format printers :lol1: :lol1: the company we bought those machines went bust and shortly after we closed down that side of the business. because materials etc became to high in price due to this and we wanted to concentrate on signs as it was winning hands down at the time… less hassle “would you believe” 😕

  • Peter Munday

    Member
    October 15, 2004 at 1:52 pm

    Becky: Yes I’m printing onto light and dark colours using both methods
    sublimation and transfer.
    John: No this is not my main line of business, I have a Resolve 4′ inkjet printer and a 700mm plotter for standard vinyls.
    The sublimation was intended to boost my income, but I’m begining to think different.
    Thanks to all for your replies they cheered me up no end. :lol1:

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