• Posted by Derek Heron on November 9, 2004 at 5:24 pm

    i have been offered the following
    Its a EXCELAM 1600 GMP COLD with stand and accessories + large role of laminate!
    Mint condition
    any idea what this is worth is it any good and what would it be used for its my mates and it is for sale
    cheers
    dex

    John Cornfield replied 19 years, 6 months ago 7 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Steve Lamb

    Member
    November 9, 2004 at 11:26 pm

    Dex

    I would say anything between £1400 – £1800 depending on age condition! I think these go for around £2600 new.
    Its quite a big machine so you would have to think to yourself have i got the space and do I need it?
    The main purpose of a cold laminator would be to mount vinyl print or vinyl colour to flat substrates and to apply pressure sensitive laminate films to printed jobs for added protection.
    Is also useful for applying application tape to cut graphics, especially if you are cutting 1220mm wide with longish runs.

    I hope this helps?

  • Derek Heron

    Member
    November 10, 2004 at 8:07 am

    thanks lamby
    i will see what he wants for it
    cheers
    dex

  • Nigel Pugh

    Member
    November 10, 2004 at 10:02 am

    We use to deal with these laminators supplied through GMP, two years ago they used to be at £3000 plus.

  • Rodney Gold

    Member
    November 10, 2004 at 10:43 am

    I use a GMP Excellmaster 1600 and find it an absolutely wonderful machine.
    We never have lam problems like washboarding , curling , boatwaking , bubbles etc and nothing we have EVER laminated has delammed. We use the GMP lam as I get it at an exceptional price.
    Apart from the hot and cold lamination , a pressure lam can also mount , but better than that , it can make non self adesive stuff self adesive by lamming double sided mounting film. There are other uses as well
    We make formica self adhesive – the kitchen guys love this as well as the signage guys , we laser cut the formica and the signage guys have an amazing range of cheap “cut letters”
    We make a lot of other stuff self adhesive like lino , plywood etc etc , anything under 15mm thick can be done.
    We also front lam crystalex( optically crystal clear) on perpex, vinyl et etc , so it can be mounted inside a window.
    We lam dry UV resist onto large stainless , brass and aluminium sheets for the photoetching crowd. (non of the resist lams are near this size)
    We do a lot of lams for photographers and otherts that dont have a 1.6m wide machine. Other applications are floor graphics lamination etc.
    The thing with lamination is that you can “control” the looks of a graphic , for example using a semi matt stops lighting glare and tends to soften an image , lams mostly make colours “pop” more.
    Lamination is a very good profit generator in itself , however it has to be marketed and it can take a long time to do this effectively. If you can’t get films cheap , its most likely you wont be that competitive , we get ours at distributor prices so are ultra competitive – the other lam guys pay 80% more for their films and we can come in at just a little above their cost on large contract jobs.
    As an aside , you can lam any width less than 1600 mm as well , the lam guys should slit rolls to specific widths.
    Unless you have specific applications for this machine , I would not buy it however. We use ours internally more than anything else.

  • Steve Lamb

    Member
    November 10, 2004 at 9:02 pm

    Dex
    I checked again on that GMP laminator with a colleague today and I was well out 😳 As Jobe said the price is well over £3000 so second hand could be worth more, sorry about that!
    Rodneys points are well worth listeneing to on lamination.

  • Adrian Hewson

    Member
    November 11, 2004 at 12:08 am

    We got a 1300mm laminator that we have hardly used (cold laminator) (lecky and manual) would let it go for a grand if you want

    Regards Adrian

  • jetset

    Member
    December 4, 2004 at 9:43 am

    Adrian,
    Although we used to have a laminator we gave it up as no-one could cope with it always messing up and drawing in prints sideways, so went back to wet laminating.
    BUT now we need to practice again, would this machine work for roland printed vinyl ? Is it still available ?
    Andrew

  • John Cornfield

    Member
    December 4, 2004 at 11:45 am

    If your laminator is running off ie pulling through squint you porbably have it off the level.

    Check your rollers with a spirit level on 3 points and on the two sides of the machine.

    Other thing is put your rollers together and surn the machine for 30mins this will help if you have any flatspots on the rollers.

    final tip is always make sure you seperate the rollers if you are leaving the machine unused.

    cheers

    JC

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