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    Posted by Phill Fenton on January 19, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    I have a vehicle to get partially wrapped this week. Some if it involves using black vinyl to cover some tight compound curves. Rather than use cast vinyl straight off the roll – I am going to try laminating two layers of the vinyl together to use as the wrap material. My thinking is that the double thickness will be more forgiving than the very fine cast vinyl alone would be.

    Am I right, or should I just be using cast vinyl straight from the roll? And has anyone tried this before?

    Phill Fenton replied 15 years, 4 months ago 7 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Peter Normington

    Member
    January 19, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    Never heard of that before, why not buy a couple of metres of kpmf vws?
    it is thicker than a cast, and pretty easy to apply (doesn’t like to be cold though)
    Peter

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    January 19, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    I have plenty of black cast 751 Peter so I thought I would try that rather than have to buy in vinyl specially for this job. It’s a bit of an experiment really. Cameron had suggested recently laminating coloured 951 series with clear which is what made me think of trying this.

  • Gavin MacMillan

    Member
    January 19, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    If you try with the black without doubling up you will have twice as many goes for the same amount of material.

    How bad are the curves as although 751 is a cast I don’t think it’s suitable for wrapping, if not too severe though I reckon it would be fine.

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    January 19, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    Phil, I have tried this before, it is harder to conform from experience.

    The thinner the material, the easier it is to work with.

    I’m not sure what 951 is, we don’t have that here, only a coloured wrap material called 970. Its thicker than cast, but softens to a gooey consistency if over heated. Laminating it makes it easier to play with when its heated.

    From what I understand, it has to be thicker to prevent the colour ‘fading’ when its stretched.

    I don’t like it to be honest. The adhesive sticks like you-know-what to a blanket. Its designed to be used with the conform spray too, from what I’m told.

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    January 19, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    phill i regularly use 751c clear as a laminate works very well, so on top of 751 cant see a problem.

    chris

  • James Culpin

    Member
    January 21, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    Phil,
    It should be fine, a layer of black with a clear laminate should make it thick enough to work with. wouldn’t be as good as a wrap vinyl but i see no reason not to at least try it.
    as long as the clear and black are the same sort of vinyl as you want them to conform together and not work against each other.
    let us know how you get on.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    January 21, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    I used this today – two layers of 751c oracle vinyl laminated together. It worked pretty well actually. I had to stretch it quite a bit because the compound curves were pretty tight. Even with stretching it stayed nice and deep black. Will post some pictures tomorrow

  • Adrian Yeo

    Member
    January 22, 2009 at 9:07 am

    Phil

    Did you manage to get this down first time or did you have to pull back at any stage and re-position? Just wondered how re-positionable you found the 751? I found that it sticks like the proverbial so never considered using for this application.

    Cheers

    Adrian

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    January 22, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    I had to re-position it a number of times. I think if it wasn’t double thickness it would have torn which is why I wasn’t keen to try it using ordinary cast

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