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Just like to share with you a bad day at the office!!
The Job:
Vinyl letter two side windows and one back window on an Astra Estate Car – simple! I can normally knock this off within an hour? Oh no…
For some odd reason the vinyl would not go down. I cleaned and de-greased the whole area, applied the job, and it would not lay. It took two more hours before it went down. This was applied with a little (VERY VERY LITTLE water) not enough to cause problems.It was very humid today and I thought that was a factor, but maybe not
My only assumption is that the letter style I needed to use was causing the problem. The serifs were quite acute for such lettering (Times Roman Bold at 2" height) I was going to put it on dry but the space I had to work was very limited and I needed room to breathe.
Application onto glass is simple but sometimes it can kick right up the ass
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12 Replies
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Craig I would say your problem was the water, it’s never good to apply to glass wet especially if it is humid, that sort of intensifies the problem, I always apply dry to glass.
Lynn
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I agree with Lynn,
unless it’s big uncut sheets of vinyl – do it dry on glass as water+glass is basically non-stick especially with letters with a small surface area.
I remember waiting hours (usually in somebody’s shop) for vinyl to stick before I learnt the words "do it dry"!
Dave
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especially if its toughened glass, for some reason when we apply etch panels to toughened glass they take twice as long to dry as normal or laminated glass
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quote signsurfer:especially if its toughened glass, for some reason when we apply etch panels to toughened glass they take twice as long to dry as normal or laminated glassmmm.. I agree, water+humidity+glass=frustration 😀
I have noticed that with toughened glass too. Its like it is highly polished or something. I never apply wet to glass…. ever…. unless its etch/frost, then I do, but always factor in nothing going right… 😕
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I’ve had a few boy racer cars to do lately and have found the same, I usually apply dry to glass anyway but when doing a sunstrip I apply it wet as I do them to the correct shape first so they need to line up.
Even on a good day they take ages to dry.Used to do shop windows wet until the first I did with lettering, never again, had to go shopping while it dried :lol1: For boys toys obviously.
Steve
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Reminds me of a funny one years ago
I used to work from home (until i saw the light) and a boy racer came to the house for a sun strip, about 8" deep, id never done one before so as usual said no problem, cleaned the glass and edges down well, and as it was on glass i thought use water so no nasty bubbles, laid it down with not a bubble in sight, boy racer really chuffed, paid his money and off he sped, wheels spinning down the lane, as the wind caught the strip and up in the air it flew!, car stopped with a big cloud of dust, afew words were heard in the distance as he picked it up and stuck it back on and off he went again, still laugh at it now!
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I always apply dry, Even with sunstrips. Saves you a shedload of time. Never had probs with them sticking.
kev
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cough cough cough DRY…. only DRY…. cough… did i mention DRY? 😉
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I have some vinyl graphics to apply and was wondering what the best sort of application fluid was, is it best to buy one ready made or just use a bit of washing up liquid and water?
What are your thoughts on this Robert?
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Martin
If you run out of fluid on the job and you are nearly finished you can just spit on the surface, makes it nice and slimy, great for tight registration work.
this is where I put a laughing smiley
ok here it is ,………………… :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:
you asked for that you cheeky man, don’t get the wee man worked up over nothing 😉
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quote :or just use a bit of washing up liquid and water?stirred not shaken at 40 deg. thats not just application fluid thats M&S application fluid..
long live the wetties
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Chris, think of the environment. Should be 30 deg now not 40 :lol1:
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