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    Posted by James Martin on January 28, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    Hello

    Turned up for Jury duty last year and although I never got picked I did spent a fair bit of time over a few days sitting around.

    I’ve been trying to prove my expenses to them.

    I calculated at 20 quid an hour but they want proof.

    But I’m a sole trader and I only registered with the inland revenue in June last year so I don’t even have a tax statement.

    Anyone had/having the same problems?

    I even posted a web site that has my services advertised with a rate but they now want to know how that proves my rate

    If i don’t get it I’m not paying my driving fines! :lol1:

    Graeme Harrold replied 15 years, 3 months ago 6 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Ian Johnston

    Member
    January 28, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    get your accountant to sort it, he’ll be well used to it
    Remember your expenses isn’t just you, it’s your overall costs, and overheads

    Ian

  • James Martin

    Member
    January 28, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    tks but I don’t have an accountant Ian.

  • Ian Johnston

    Member
    January 28, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    can’t survive in business without one, go get one. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but you should have had an accountant from day one of even thinking of starting a business.

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    January 28, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    James, you should be able to give them proof from your profit and loss account, and backed up with your bank statements.
    But I would take Ians advice, and make getting an accountant A higher priority than claiming a few quid from the courts…..

    Peter

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    January 29, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    Good advice from these blokes James.

    With all the tax laws and stuff (I’m sure the UK is worse that here) an accountant could either save you money, or stop you from wasting it.

    I’d be lost without my accountant frankly. I don’t spend any ‘real money’ till I run it past him first. When buying anything major, I just give the finance company his name and number, he does his stuff, and I just sign the loan documents.

    He can structure all my loans around by business, to limit me tax exposure.

    In the case of the courts, they’ll take his figures as Gospel, but doing your own finances, the courts will assume, rightly or wrongly, that you are fudging the figures. An accountant can’t risk being investigated for fraudulent activity, and the courts know it.

  • Martin Grimmer

    Member
    January 29, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    One other thing James – there is a maximum limit per day.

    Think I saw something on the BBC or FSB website with someone else having problems – but cannot find link.

    Another link setting out maximum here…may make it easier to show that your expenses are up to maximum…

    http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/docs … July07.pdf

    Martin

  • James Martin

    Member
    January 29, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    cheers everyone

    I guess I should look into it, the cost might be offset by any savings he/she saves me.

    What would a sole trader like myself expect to pay do you all think?

    I will have a read at that Martin. I’m getting something back for my time.
    They should have a better system that doesn’t waste so much.

    Every day there must have been a hundred people waiting around to pick a few dozen people.

  • Ian Johnston

    Member
    January 29, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    there is a maxium amount they will pay you, but they also have to pay someone to replace you if your selfemployed.

    Ian

  • Graeme Harrold

    Member
    January 29, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    Accountant should be somewhere between £200 and £500 for "simple" accounts. Found this the hard way before I sacked my 1st accountant after a £1200 bill for my first year…….Turnover £2500!!!!!!
    Costs go down quickly if you use the same software as them i.e.Sage Quickbooks etc.

    They should look at you as a whole, and not just the business aspect, get your wife/partner in there as you can off load stuff onto them too. The more they have to work with, the more they can save you.

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