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  • Is this sublimation ?

    Posted by Phil Buckley on July 4, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    As the title suggests, I am trying to figure out what process has been used, (from start to finish), to get images like this onto this crash helmet. The helmet is being viewed from almost directly above it. (This is Seb Vettels helmet from this years British GP).

    I am trying to find out how to get images like this onto a 3D surface, without having to airbrush it, which of course is impossible on that scale.

    Apologies if this is in the wrong forum category, but I just don’t know the process(s) involved, and hence, where to stick it !!!

    Phil


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  • John Thomson

    Member
    July 4, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    Sublimation requires heat and pressure…………I doubt they would subject a carsh helmet to that…..might be wrong though.

    john

  • Phil Buckley

    Member
    July 4, 2013 at 9:35 pm
    quote John Thomson:

    Sublimation requires heat and pressure…………I doubt they would subject a carsh helmet to that…..might be wrong though.

    john

    So could it just be as simple as printing onto vinyl, and applying heat to bend it onto the helmet?

  • John Thomson

    Member
    July 4, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    Even the most skilled wrapper would struggle to get that level of finish with no stretch I think.

    Perhaps this was done during the helmet manufacture rather than later on?

    john

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    July 4, 2013 at 10:44 pm

    There was a stand at FESPA, UV printing I seem to recall but they had lots of shaped objects that I assumed were some kind of direct print.

    Go to this link http://www.sign7tv.com/mobile and watch top video or on main site watch the FESPA news video with the skinny bloke in a suit..

    There’s a woman who mentions ‘it’s not sublimation inks’ in a European accent, I’m sure it was their stand that had the helmets on – might be enough footage to ID the business name!

    Hugh

  • Harry Cleary

    Member
    July 4, 2013 at 10:50 pm

    Some form of waterslide transfer maybe?
    http://www.tslgraphics.com/products/dec … ide-decals

  • Phil Buckley

    Member
    July 5, 2013 at 11:22 am
    quote John Thomson:

    Even the most skilled wrapper would struggle to get that level of finish with no stretch I think.

    Perhaps this was done during the helmet manufacture rather than later on?

    john

    I’m sure this was not done during manufacture. The guy is Gens Munser, who "paints" alot of the F1 helmets, amongst other things. His web site states that he’s investigated alot of different techniques for getting images onto things, but he’s not sharing them !

    Sorry if I’ve misled anyone, but the part of the image I was referring to was just the faces, which I suspect are put on separately from everything else on the picture

  • Phil Buckley

    Member
    July 5, 2013 at 11:24 am
    quote Hugh Potter:

    There was a stand at FESPA, UV printing I seem to recall but they had lots of shaped objects that I assumed were some kind of direct print.

    Go to this link http://www.sign7tv.com/mobile and watch top video or on main site watch the FESPA news video with the skinny bloke in a suit..

    There’s a woman who mentions ‘it’s not sublimation inks’ in a European accent, I’m sure it was their stand that had the helmets on – might be enough footage to ID the business name!

    Hugh

    Thanks for that. She calls them "sublemetic inks" !!!!!! Means nothing to me. Will do a bit more digging. Company is Kiian.com
    Thanks

  • Phil Buckley

    Member
    July 5, 2013 at 11:26 am
    quote Harry Cleary:

    Some form of waterslide transfer maybe?
    http://www.tslgraphics.com/products/dec … ide-decals

    Thanks. This was one of my initial thoughts, as I do this already, in a very primitive way. I do apply to 3d surfaces, but I’m not sure the decal would "stretch" enough for a helmet, gentle curve as it is!!

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