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  • Is it okay to use other vinyl for pvc banners?

    Posted by Chris Walker on July 30, 2009 at 9:49 am

    I wanna do a PVC banner for inside my shop, to advertise that we do banners, but want to use some flourescent or similar vinyl to make it eyecatching. Will this be ok for a banner being hung inside with little movement or will it fall off/peel after a few days?

    Gwaredd Steele replied 14 years, 9 months ago 10 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Tim Painter

    Member
    July 30, 2009 at 10:02 am

    I would only use what banner vinyl colours are available, reason being is you open up the hassle of clients saying I want it like that.

    Maybe also have a printed banner up to show another option.

    Just my 2p’s worth.

    Tim.

  • Chris Walker

    Member
    July 30, 2009 at 10:11 am

    You’re right, I’ll just make up one with available colours.
    But will the normal vinyl same colours as banner vinyl be okay for said purpose?

  • Ian Muir

    Member
    July 30, 2009 at 11:03 am

    Yes, will be fine indoors…. use matt perhaps..

    A lot of people just use ordinary vinyl for banners in any case e.g. oracal 651, I don’t cos it can wrinkle in windy positions if the banner is not taught or when rolled up often.

    However to match a corporate colour for a yearly exhibition I had to use ordinary as a 100mm stripe over a 10 meter banner.. it’s in a normally windy spot up for 10 days a year for last 10 years and the vinyl is just now showing signs of wrinkling bad enough to warrant replacing (printed this time I will)…

    Ian :lol1:

  • Peter Dee

    Member
    July 30, 2009 at 11:07 am

    Chris, I’ve read on here that some people use standard vinyls.

    In my opinion they don’t hold up due to wrinkling and the use of gloss vinyl on a banner just looks wrong.
    If you’re serious about giving the right image, don’t cut corners.

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    July 30, 2009 at 11:26 am

    My opinion is NOT to use regular vinyls on a banner. I know some do, I know many get away with it but my opinion is not to.
    Put it this way… getting away with it inside your shop is one thing, but you have said its to promote the fact you do banners. now lets say your customers sees the banner and wants one just like it… your then going to have to back pedal and tell them you need to use a banner vinyl and the day-glow colours etc arent available in that range blah blah blah… as i said, just keep to the proper tool for the job in hand and you can sell your goods in confidence and not have to try and blag your way through a sale or even worry about the job once the customer walks out your shop.

  • Mike Grant

    Member
    July 30, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    You should never use normal vinyl on banners due to the plasticizers migration that takes place. Basically the smell of the PVC is actually a gas constantly leeching out of the PVC. This gas attacks the adhesive of the vinyl and makes it go soft and gooee and that is what causes the vinyl to fail and wrinkle. It does not matter if it is indoors or not the plasticizer migration will still happen. Dont sink the ship for a ha’peth of tar. Use only the correct banner vinyl as it is designed for the job and you won’t need to make excuses to your customers.

  • Nigel Hindley

    Member
    July 30, 2009 at 6:01 pm
    quote Chris Walker:

    You’re right, I’ll just make up one with available colours.
    But will the normal vinyl same colours as banner vinyl be okay for said purpose?

    Im curious why dont you want to just use banner vinyl?

  • Lynn Normington

    Member
    July 30, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    the only time I would use normal vinyl, on a banner is in an extreme emergency, other wise I wouldn’t, and especially in your own shop you should use appropriate materials.
    jmho

    Lynn

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    July 30, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    I use 651 on 10 and 13oz vinyl banners, and have never had a complaint in the 11 years I have been making vinyl graphics.
    Maybe our banners are different?
    Love….Jill

  • Chris Walker

    Member
    July 31, 2009 at 12:26 am

    I understand what ur saying about doing it properly for the right impression but the last time I bought the banner stuff it cost twice as much as normal and my minimum quantity was 10m. I’d rather feel it out First because I still have 8m of White sitting from last banner I did]

  • Peter Dee

    Member
    July 31, 2009 at 8:12 am

    Chris, you need to shop around on those terms.

    As most banners are white I use very little white vinyl.
    The good thing is the limited colour range enables stock to be held and only produce designs based on what you have available.

  • Gwaredd Steele

    Member
    July 31, 2009 at 8:25 am

    Why not buy in a printed one? You can pick up a 6′ x 2′ for about £30.00 now thanks to the internet. You can then add a decent mark-up to it. So much easier, faster & potentially more profit doing it that way than fannying about with banner material.

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