Impact vehicle library

[Lynn Normington]

Have used Impacts outlines for years they are the best I have seen, sometimes a slight bit out but I always measure anyway, sometimes it’s the badges in different places but I don’t think Brain ever claimed to be psychic 🙄 mostly I can do a design and fit it from the outline.

Lynn

[Steve J T]

quote Lynn:

Have used Impacts outlines for years they are the best I have seen, sometimes a slight bit out but I always measure anyway, sometimes it’s the badges in different places but I don’t think Brain ever claimed to be psychic 🙄 mostly I can do a design and fit it from the outline.

Lynn

Cheers,

Badges I can understand fully (to many editions to keep track of) but if it is the right file then there’s no need to be psychic as the profiles are in the focus handbook and being the best selling uk car for quite a while back material is not hard to come by, based on the disks profile the bonnets are really not that close only ish.

Are some curves of the profiles exaggerated to allow for the curvature?

But to many swear by this set so I’ll look deeper at the collection

Ta 🙂

[LeeMorris]

Steve
Like you i had an older version of outlines, don’t thick it was Impacts.
But soon realized you need to be up to date with these outlines when doing vehicle graphics. I purchased the new Impact disc and you get free updates for 12 months. The amount of times you use them its money well spent.
If i’m doing a design and have not seen the actual vehicle i keep the design on the outline away from the edge of panels then when you fit them use should have no problems with them fitting.

Lee

[Brian Hays]

The artwork we use come from Ford Motor Company. You will never get 100% accurate outline ever. A front of a car is particularly difficult to show on a 2 dimensional drawing. Try taking a photo front the front as see what you get! If you are going to the trouble of measuring the angles on indicators then I am quite glad we never got your email! Please don’t buy our outlines 😮

If you do a search you will mostly see that although people recommend them they don’t generally take measurements as the gospel. We do our best (that is why I am here digitising @ 8.25 on a Friday night) but it is not easy to take a 3d object & produce a 2d outline. We do our best & fortunately that works for most people. We wouldn’t have been producing outlines for 12 years if that wasn’t the case. 95% of our business comes from repeat customers.

I fear the product you require does not exist. And I suspect it never will.

[Steve J T]

quote leemorris:

Steve
Like you i had an older version of outlines, don’t thick it was Impacts.
But soon realized you need to be up to date with these outlines when doing vehicle graphics. I purchased the new Impact disc and you get free updates for 12 months. The amount of times you use them its money well spent.
If i’m doing a design and have not seen the actual vehicle i keep the design on the outline away from the edge of panels then when you fit them use should have no problems with them fitting.

Lee

Cheers Lee

I will take you guys/gals advice on board and I’ll use the profiles as just reference and I’ll measure and take more pictures as well.

Cheers all

[Lynn Normington]

you don’t really need to take measurements unless you are going to the extremes you don’t have to,I don’t know how he does it, spect he won’t tell (?) all I know is it makes my life a lot easier thanks ? Brian 😀

Lynn

[Robert Lambie]

Steve i have glanced my way through this thread so please excuse if i repeat whats already be said…
Vehicles libraries are never 100% perfect, they cant be due to how 2d visuals are traced. what i can say is that Impacts are the best of the bunch. don’t believe me then ask others… i have been in this game over 16 years… without this bit of software ide be lost!
digger "DEEPER" buy the most up to date version of the software and use it to its full potential.

[Ian Bingham]

wow rob
didn’t know you started making signs when you were 4yrs old

[Robert Lambie]

:lol1: :lol1: :lol1: im 36 in a months time mate… easy paper round… 😉

[Nigel Pugh]

To back up on what Rob has said, we used to supply outlines from another publisher, now we supply Impacts and to be honest not one complaint since we changed.

Anything I have asked of Brian or his staff has been answered a.s.a.p. and no I’m not getting a commission before you ask.

(is that ok for you Brian) 😀

[Robert Lambie]

its good to hear grafityp, as another distributor of the software doesnt have issues either nigel… all feedback is good!

[Brian Hays]

quote Ian Bingham:

wow rob
didn’t know you started making signs when you were 4yrs old

Please bear in mind Rob’s Avatar is a 20 year old pic 😀

[David Rowland]

my biggest complaint about outlines is the motor companies who keep producing new vehicles each year… means we have to buy another CD 🙄

Brian’s CDs are very useful in many ways, although he statement about 3D to 2D redraw baffles me a bit, I would have thought of taking the original 3D cad files and rendering a view of one side of a vehicle would be quite easy, no lens just pure side view as in autocad, then trace as needed. Alternatively drive the vehicle through a very large 3D scanner as they use in the games industry (although they cost a tonne of money). Suddenly my inventive mind comes into play with a large CNC machine that just touches finds the distance with a moving rod or a distance laser, can see it now.

[Steve J T]

quote Robert Lambie:

Steve i have glanced my way through this thread so please excuse if i repeat whats already be said…
Vehicles libraries are never 100% perfect, they cant be due to how 2d visuals are traced. what i can say is that Impacts are the best of the bunch. don’t believe me then ask others… i have been in this game over 16 years… without this bit of software ide be lost!
digger “DEEPER” buy the most up to date version of the software and use it to its full potential.

Cheers All,

Honestly I know the amount of work that goes into this kind of work after all I spent most of my working life building 3D models from plans (be it pictures,manufacturers plans or in the case of tv work artists sketches – or even mine for that matter), my models were not 100% either.

And no doubt I will get the most up to date version (I got itchy fingers and if I got a reply from impact I would got the newer version).

BUT I find the top of the bonnet to bottom of the windscreen is quite different from the car, not a problem as I know the car and it may not be a problem even if I didn’t.

Have a look, maybe I’m nit picking and as for not believing it was opinions
from the good guys and gals of the this that took me straight to Impact.

I feel Im on a back foot here – proceding to running AWwayyyy………….

Cheers All

[Robert Lambie]

dave! 🙄 🙄 🙄 :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

i know exactly what brian must go through… have you ever tried producing a vehicle template/kit for 3M diamond grade?

those that havent try producing a door template 100% on the easiest wing of a van and apply it in one go… first time!

[Robert Lambie]

Steve, no disrespect, but when you look on a 3D object front on and try and create a 2D template to apply over a 3D object… it just wont work mate.
Granted, templates are meant to help but only as a guide for visuals and easy sizing, not gospel measurements.

[David Rowland]

yeah it is a guide… i have also thought meshing corel node data to a 3D surface before… but its rather complicated to write, but I can see it is possible in code

[Peter Normington]

I’ve always wondered why the manufacturers don’t produce easily accessible templates of their vans/cars?
I remember they used to supply scale drawings on squared paper,
for body builders and the like.
I would have thought it to their advantage to do so in a vector format…
Considering the percentage of vans that are signwritten…

its also not a problem to create 3d drawings, draughtsmen have been doing it for eternity…

it is just represented in 2D

Peter

[Ian Bingham]

dont mean anything against brian but we just take a pic of the customers vehicle and scale it up and design over the pic
anyone else do this?
ian

[David Rowland]

Yes, we do… all the time Ian unless we have the outline

However u wont get lens perspective with brians 2D file

[Robert Lambie]

i find it works just the same Ian…. but having the disk means there is no need to take the pictures or re-size. for around £80 a year its a must have software!
we have customers call in every day asking for a van to be fitted for the next day or so… we could Never ask them to arrive that day to measure and then come back to fit.

[Peter Normington]

quote Ian Bingham:

dont mean anything against brian but we just take a pic of the customers vehicle and scale it up and design over the pic
anyone else do this?
ian

That’s fine Ian,
I do it when the client has a one of vehicle, or a special body.

but it means the client has to turn up with the vehicle, once to photo, and then again to have the vinyl applied,

Brian’s outlines save the customer and signmaker a lot of time, and for only about 24p per day, over the year

Peter

[Ian Bingham]

OK

Games up!

Who’s on commission with Brian

(ps Ive got an outline disc too)

[David Rowland]

all UKSG members are… because we get a discount :lol1:

[Peter Normington]

Ian, its nothing to do with commission, this site only recommends to and for our peers.
Impact, in many members opinion, is the best on the uk market.
If it weren’t for the pirates out there, I’m sure Brian could sell it for far more.

I for one find it invaluable

Peter

[Brian Hays]

quote Peter Normington:

I’ve always wondered why the manufacturers don’t produce easily accessible templates of their vans/cars?
I remember they used to supply scale drawings on squared paper,
for body builders and the like.
I would have thought it to their advantage to do so in a vector format…
Considering the percentage of vans that are signwritten…

its also not a problem to create 3d drawings, draughtsmen have been doing it for eternity…

it is just represented in 2D

Peter

Some do Pete, looks on volkswagen.co.uk They have Sign Writing drawings on there, they are terrible. Don’t even have door handles mirrors etc.

[Robert Lambie]

quote Ian Bingham:

OK
Games up!
Who’s on commission with Brian
(ps Ive got an outline disc too)

:lol1: :lol1: :lol1: i wish i was on commission with every supplier i recommend Ian, i would make a small fortune! reality is, i "will" recommend suppliers i use on a daily basis backed with reasons why…. if i do not, i will "suggest" suppliers i "think" to have a good product/reputation… 😀

[Ian Bingham]

think if were honest, most of the new suppliers we use come from recommendations not advertising
as is true of our new customers
ian