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  • I must have a moan…Police!

    Posted by Andy Gorman on January 11, 2006 at 1:58 pm

    I’ve got to have a moan about this before I explode.

    Last night at about midnight I heard an almighty crash outside my house. When I went outside there was a Mercedes parked across the front of my neighbours front garden with the remains of their garden wall all over its bonnet. As the car reversed out and buggered off up the street at great speed I wrote down the registration and called the old Bill. The following is an extract of the conversation I had with the Police:

    me: “Someone has just crashed into a house and driven away”
    Police: “the owner of the house will have to come to the station TOMORROW and make a statement”
    me: “But this is a probable drunk driver, can’t you send a car out, I can still see the car driving away.”
    Police:”The owner of the house has to come to the station TOMORROW to make a complaint.”
    me: “Are you having some kind of a laugh?”
    Police: “You can’t make a complaint about this because it’s not your property.”

    etc

    Now what would happen if that probable drunk driver turned the next corner and killed someone?

    Last month someone nicked something from a shop in the town. Within 10 minutes they had a Police helicopter over the town centre looking for them.

    Or is it just me?

    TheDecalMan replied 18 years, 4 months ago 14 Members · 18 Replies
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  • Marcella Ross

    Member
    January 11, 2006 at 2:07 pm

    Definitely not just you Andy. It’s just typical.

    A couple of months ago my hubby was out driving in his transit van. He drove past a traffic car waiting to come out of a side street, it decided to change direction and come after him. It was a 30 zone and he was well within the limit. But, blue lights going, sirens going, he pulled out onto the other side of the road to overtake the 2 cars between them making the lollipop lady who was about to take the school kids across the road jump back. John pulled in at the next opportunity and got out the van. The cop jumped out the car with a ruler in his hand and said ,
    “I want to talk to you about the illegal spacing on your number plate”

    I ask you…….

    It’s what the world is coming to.

  • Dave Bruce

    Member
    January 11, 2006 at 2:09 pm

    Doesn’t make sense, ‘cos if you had said there is a car swerving down the road and may cause an accident, I am sure they come out straight away as it is potentialy very dangerous.

    I have heard many silly stories like this unfortunately, I think they have a hard job sometimes, but just create a bad impression of themselves most of the time.

    Dave.com.com.com

  • John Childs

    Member
    January 11, 2006 at 3:42 pm

    I agree that the police can have a hard time, but sometimes they don’t do themselves any favours.

    Recently I found myself having a re-think on my attitude towards them. It runs along the lines of if they go out of their way to make my life a misery then why should I help them if ever they need it?

    The problem as I see it is, if I am thinking like that, is every other upstanding middle-class member of society doing the same? And what are the implications of that?

    Worrying.

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    January 11, 2006 at 3:57 pm

    The thing is, I’ve always given the old Bill the benefit of the doubt – no more though. From my experience last night, it would seem the call-in system is set up to deter us from reporting crime. This muppet was not at all interested in listening to my report of the incident. I also know why he kept telling me to report it tomorrow: because our Police station closes at 6pm!

    A couple of years ago, a drunk fell in the road in front of my car. I didn’t hit him but stopped well short of him. This was outside the police station so I went in to tell them. 10 minutes later I was in an interview room being breathylised!

    You’ve got to laugh, haven’t you?

  • Marcella Ross

    Member
    January 11, 2006 at 4:03 pm

    You’re right Andy, this does deter us from reporting and that’s exactly why their system is like that, it’s so they can say that their figures for reported crimes are down! It’s all done to make things look better on paper not for the good of the people.

    John, you’re spot on too, I certainly agree that it doesn’t want to make us help them in any way, you’re not alone there.

    The wrong people are now being protected by our poor system. Steal a car and get community service….. or nothing as is often the case. But do 35 in a 30 zone and get fined!

  • George Elsmore

    Member
    January 11, 2006 at 4:14 pm

    I agree with all that is said i have had enough experiences with police when you have done absolutley nothing wrong they get on your case and get your back up………COME THE REVOLUTION!!!! this man can be in charge of the Police :police3: he’s ace

  • Dave Bruce

    Member
    January 11, 2006 at 4:32 pm

    I have in the past been stopped for speeding, I was doing 25mph in a 30mph area, but the police showed me the incar speeding box (forget what they call it) which showed 67mph! Now I know they were wrong and I know they can store the last number in the box (I have friends on the force). Went to court to contest, was told to get a lawyer and come back and they would get the police in to interview. Went back no police lawyer put my side forward, got done for £40 and 3 penalty points 😮 . The reason I got stopped, I was a young lad in a rally mini, and I had only just fitted a new head gasket so was taking it easy, and I even saw them pull out of an entrance before I pulled out of the side road, but no one listens to youths 😥

    As said above I have friends on the force and the stories I hear about crooked cops/crooked system just apalls me, 1 friend left due to it, 1 transferred to escort duty and another is doing licensing duty because he reported wrong doing.

    My moan over

    Dave.com.com.com

  • John Childs

    Member
    January 11, 2006 at 4:44 pm

    LOL.

    That reminds me Dave.

    When I was a lad I had a rally Mini. Roll cage, four big spotlights on the front and white squares on the doors. If I was out after 10pm at night I could practically guarantee being stopped.

    That was years ago when the police were more reasonable.

  • Dave Harrison

    Member
    January 11, 2006 at 8:51 pm

    Like my old man once said to a copper. .. ” Do you all take the same sarcasm class at Hendon, officer ? ”

    Andy you’ll probably find that the real reason was that they didn’t have enough officers on duty. My Aunt works nights on the police switch board she says midweek they only have 3 patrol cars for half of South London !

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    January 11, 2006 at 9:10 pm

    i’m not proud of this tale, but its the same thing…….

    i sold a GOOD range rover to a guy, end of story as far as i was concerned, but i often noticed him thrashing the nuts off of it around town, especially on sundays, then, since i was always at the pub myself, i’d see that he’d drink shed loads, then when the bar closed, he’d DRIVE 200yrs thru the town to the next pub and drink til late aternoon before thrashing the thing home 5 miles,

    like most people i guess, i turned a blind eye, that was until two things happened, firstly, i saw him hit another car as he left to go to the next pub, and didnt bother to stop, not bad damage, but damage non the less, al i did this time was tell the owner ( a pal) who’d done it and that he was well over the limit, he phoned the police and they did nothing despite being told where the guy was headed,

    three days later i received a tax reminder for the car, suggesting that he’d not registered in his name (hot) , obviously meaning that i was liable for his driving convictions if the car was spotted and him not.

    shortly after this, he screwed up the engine, then in a 10 minute drunken outburst, infront of the whole pub, he accused me of ripping him off and selling him a naff car, rubbish, fuming inside… i calmly told him to f”” himself and left A silly thing to do in hindsight as i now know he’s a house dwelling pikey…..ie big hillbilly types for our US readers),

    anyway, five mins later i see him driving off in completely knackered rangerover with the smoking to death engine, screaming of around a roundabout, almost hitting another car, this time i phoned the free phoneline for reporting crimes anonymously, they told me they couldnt deal with it as it was a crime in progress, so reluctantly i phoned the police, told them all the above, and they did NOTHING, i even told them where he had parked (outside the next pub).

    after another couple of arguments i had a real vendetta against this guy and phoned them every sunday i saw him leaving there drunk, about seven times in all over a few months, that was three years or more ago, he still gets pi**ed and drives every sunday !

    yet…. my mate got nicked for smoking a hash joint while fishing on a beach, within 15 minutes of someone ringing them 😮 😮

    police need to prioritise their urgencies.

  • steve geary

    Member
    January 11, 2006 at 9:19 pm
    quote Dave Harrison:

    she says midweek they only have 3 patrol cars for half of South London !

    … so now, who’s contemplating robbing a bank on wednesday??
    😀

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    January 11, 2006 at 9:25 pm

    wish I could say it is only in the UK but it isn’t.

    A few years ago now, my parents lived next to a big industrial centre. When I was going to their house one night I saw 8 big burly guys scaling the fence with balaclavas on.

    I raced to mum and dads place and rang the local police.

    They said they couldn’t investigate until they interviewed my at my home.

    I said ‘no way’ they’ll know who dobbed them in. Told them not to worry about it.

    They relented and said they’d send a squad car to the industrial centre 1st and then interview me later.. so I said that would be OK.

    But, they still sent the squad car to me first for all to see who’d called the cops… I was livid. Mum and dad were only renting, so they moved shortly after. They were worried sick coz the guys got away.. probably seeing that a cop car was in the street. Still amazes me to this day.

    I’m told if I’d rung the crime stopper line and reported a drug bust at the estate, they would not ask any questions and send a fleet of squad cars. I’ll try that next time..

    I reported a neighbour for a pretty wild part going on at 3am in the morning. It was impossible to sleep. The cops said they’d come and talk to me about it when they could get a squad car in the area. I said ‘not to worry’ as I didn’t want to give my neighbour a reason to give me any more grief (he was a mongrel). Before I hung up tho, I held the phone away from my ear so the police could hear the noise. They had a squad car to our street in 15 minutes and closed the party down. So I suppose there are some coppers out there with some common sense.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    January 11, 2006 at 11:39 pm

    Q – Why are policemens balls bigger than Firemens balls?

    A – Because they sell more tickets 😕

  • Andrew Boyle

    Member
    January 12, 2006 at 12:25 am

    They decided that Largs Pier would be closed to the public [never been closed from day one] due to the fact it was a target for a potential terrorism attack [reported in the local paper].
    They then changed there tune saying it was privately owned by CalMac and continued to keep the new built gates closed.
    People were no longer able to walk on their own [or CalMac’s] pier.

    There is no trespassing laws in Scotland.
    I decided in my Bacardi Breezer wisdom to scale the new 8′ gate and take an early morning stroll [as I had done many times in the last 20yrs] along the pier.

    The 2 policeman that met me on the pier decided that I was a “danger to myself” and after a very amicable chat instead of telling me to move along took me for an overnight stay at Saltcoats.

    Needless to say there was no fines, no record.

    I did hear from my friend who is very high up in Strathclyde police that there was a serious incident involving gangs near by at the same time and that my arresting police officers may have been Chinese.

    😀

    note: my brothers employed by West Sussex Police

  • Alan Wharton

    Member
    January 12, 2006 at 11:59 am

    i would not trust the police as far as i could throw 1, iv been stung by them a few times!
    lad i went to school with joined the police from school( back in 1974 btw) i used to go drinking with him every fri nite for years, he came round the house every day for a coffee on his walk abouts, 1 day i was sat on my motorbike on the front pavement when he turned up and the engine was running on the bike n he said you know you are sposed to have a helmet on when its running!! i just laffed it off n we went n had our coffee n bacon sarnies, 5 days later i got a summons to appear in court for not wearing a helmet, riding on the pavement, no insurance,tax driving licence the WORKS, when i seen him next day i said wtf is this n he said he was only doing HIS JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and was the kettle on!! lol
    went to court and was found guilty on all counts even tho the bike was mot’d and taxed and insured and i had a licence , i was stood in the court holding all my documents for the bike and they still found me Guilty!!! POLICE yer right, COURTS lol a joke.
    Ex Friend after 15 year (copper) mustnt swear on here!! (:)

  • David Rowland

    Member
    January 12, 2006 at 12:07 pm

    It just feels like a Police State these days.

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    January 12, 2006 at 12:22 pm
    quote Alan Wharton:

    i would not trust the police as far as i could throw 1, iv been stung by them a few times!
    lad i went to school with joined the police from school( back in 1974 btw) i used to go drinking with him every fri nite for years, he came round the house every day for a coffee on his walk abouts, 1 day i was sat on my motorbike on the front pavement when he turned up and the engine was running on the bike n he said you know you are sposed to have a helmet on when its running!! i just laffed it off n we went n had our coffee n bacon sarnies, 5 days later i got a summons to appear in court for not wearing a helmet, riding on the pavement, no insurance,tax driving licence the WORKS, when i seen him next day i said wtf is this n he said he was only doing HIS JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and was the kettle on!! lol
    went to court and was found guilty on all counts even tho the bike was mot’d and taxed and insured and i had a licence , i was stood in the court holding all my documents for the bike and they still found me Guilty!!! POLICE yer right, COURTS lol a joke.
    Ex Friend after 15 year (copper) mustnt swear on here!! (:)

    What happened to the good old days when the police would give you a lecture and stuff, then let you off with a warning?

    Its all about power nowdays.

    I saw a guy get killed in a road accident a few years ago, and I was asked by the police to go to the station when I finished work to make a formal statement. No probs I said, I’ll be there after lunch.

    Got down to the station, and this copper walks up to me with his charge book open, and tells me I’m going to be booked for doing a U Turn at the lights about a kilometer away. Told him it was not me. I hadn’t done a U Turn because I was coming from the other direction.

    Tells me he saw me with his own eyes, and that he would slap me with other infringements if I didn’t tell the truth.

    I asked to see the constable that had spoken to me at the accident site, and when he arrived I told him that this copper was trying to stich me up. Nothing the second copper could do because a policemans word is worth two witnesses according to australian law.

    Anyway, I said to the copper, describe my vehicle.

    The copper went on to describe my truck to a T. I was getting desperate to prove that it was not me. I asked him though, what colour my roller door was on the pantec, he guessed silver. I didn’t have roller doors, I had white hinged doors. Told him it definately was not me

    Instead of apologising, he just walked off. The copper I was seeing said that it was not uncommon to get the wrong vehicle as so many japanese trucks/vans are the same, and they often see the offence from such a long distance away.

    Got me thinking how many people have been lumbered that were totally innocent.

  • TheDecalMan

    Member
    January 19, 2006 at 12:48 am

    Here is one you might like Marcella

    A Friend of mine has a big Motorcycle and was pulled over on his bike for the same old Number Plate Spacing. The Police Said the spacing was too small on the plate and the plate was also too small.

    He thought he would try to cheer up the copper by saying it used to have a big lens fitted in front to make it appear the legal size from behind but because the crime was so out of control in his area some body had stolen the Lens.

    The copper issued a Fixed Penalty there and then.

    He Came to me and asked could i make him an Extra Large Number Plate – So I did as he asked – It Measured 500mm Wide by 300mm Height – And Fitted over the small number plate.

    He then went down to the police station to show his Documents & Show the Police his New Super Big Visible Number Plate.

    Guess what !

    Police informed him the spacing is wrong and the plate is too big and if he drove the bike off onto the public road he would be issued with a Fixed Penalty !

    🙂

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