How to do Media profiles

[Andrew Ritchie]

Hi Josh & welcome,

The man too see about the JV3 is Dave Rowland. He will no doubt be able able to tell you everything you need to know.

cheers Andy 😎

[John Simpson]

quote Andrew Ritchie:

Hi Josh & welcome,

The man too see about the JV3 is Dave Rowland. He will no doubt be able able to tell you everything you need to know.

cheers Andy 😎

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[David Rowland]

well i dont use onyx so cant help

profiles maybe available from Onyx to download or visit material manufacturers website and find the products online, Onyx has quite a bit of support.

OR

You could start learning the basics of colour management, you might need something like an Eye1 reader, more info available on it from Onyx but it allows you to take measurements off materials and feed them into the RIP about that material.

Its quite a large topic to talk about but you should have some info about reading and creating profiles from you re-seller.

However if you do want to do it yourself.. expect to pay £1000-1500 for a device.

[John Simpson]

quote Dave Rowland:

well i don’t use onyx so cant help

arrrrr Dave, what a let down! 😀

I have had a chap from my supplier came to sought out my profile for my printer a while ago as i wasn’t happy with the output onto their material.
He was here from 10am – 3pm, once he had finished i was amazed at the results……..what a difference.

I know what Dave means about the "Device" as this chap had one, some sought of colour reader which he said he was glad his firm payed for it.
L J

[David Rowland]

yes.. i was typing that fast so full of mistakes.

[Josh Steenbergen]

Thanks you for your advise, Andrew, John, and Dave…I was hoping I could do it without the eye 1. The company I work for won’t pay for it unless they think they will need it in the future. Right now we just started up, so I will have to wait on trying to do media profiles..

Thanks,
Josh Steebergen

[Cammy – Europoint Display]

Hi There,

Best bet is the material manufacturers or machine agents web-site , alternatively all OEMs will profile a material for you if its supplied to them usually FOC as they want you to be happy with the equipment , have to say in my experience visiting people with Mimakis all get excellent results using the above or nearest equivalent settings , it seems to be a very forgiving machine.
see http://www.orafol.de will be a start.

[RobGF]

quote Josh Steenbergen:

I am a new comer to the sign business…My company just recently purchased a Mimaki JV3-160 Printer with Onyx 6.5.. I was wondering what I need to do, to make and change ink profiles.. Is it hard to do? I want to be able to make my own ink profiles, but really don’t’ know how to get started on it. If I could get some pointer on how to get started, it would be very helpful..And any tips on doing this…

Thanks,
Josh Steenbergen

Here’s what I’d do, and I’m mostly serious:

1. See if your stealer will take Onyx back and let you have Wasatch.
2. Repeat step 1 until the dealer realises the error of his ways for pushing Onyx
3. If steps 1 and 2 don’t work shoot the dealer and buy Wasatch

Onyx has a very convoluted colour management system. The theory would go that if you have a spectrophotometre you can linearize and profile media directly with the RIP. The process is so bizarre that Onyx gave the world a Media Wizard to step us through the process. Unfortunatley, Media Wizard seems to skip a whole bunch of the really important bits making it effectively useless. So there you have it, convoluted or useless, your choice.

If you’re really early in the game, go get Wasatch and an Eye 1 system of some type. The process is really much easier. With Wasatch you’ll just linearize and set up ink limits. After that you can use the Eye 1 to develop ICC profiles to plug into the system. Sure, two programs but spending an hour this way per media (average) for a workable profile sure beats the heck out of hours or days on a difficult media with Onyx.

FWIW I have both products. Onyx is very pretty looking and really nicely shaded arrow buttons in the queue panel. Wasatch on the other had does not have fancy looking arrow buttons.